Bug 59069

KMail is most likely not crashing but being killed by the out of memory killer,
which is why you don't see a crash handler (check the end of dmesg for
confirmation).

In any case, please _do not_ knowingly report duplicates, it merely wastes
developer time.

*** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of 17067 ***

In this case, I could NOT confirm it was a duplicate of another bug, as there was no 
info or comments on the bug I was comparing it to.  And I find this one hard to 
believe that it was killed by the OOM killer, as at the time, the machine was lightly 
loaded, and the swap was never touched. 

Subject: Re:  New: kmail attachment large file crash

Please run kmail with gdb ('gdb /pathtokmail/kmail' and then 'run 
--nofork') and reproduce the crash. You should then get a backtrace 
with 'bt'.

I just tried to send a 23 MB attachment with KMail 1.5.2. Apart from the 
facts that my SMTP server rejected the message (Error: message too 
large) and that KMail used the incredible amount of 270 MB (after 
starting it consumed ~40 MB and after attaching the 23 MB is consumed 
~70 MB) everything worked. No crash.

Subject: Re:  kmail attachment large file crash

Okay, I may be proven wrong once again.. *GASP*
Ran as below, and surprised to see.. kmail initially wanted 47 MG, but quickly 
presumed to use over 140 Mg and I was only attaching 13 MG worth of 
attachments to the email.  How in the heck does it need all that memory?
But it may be something else as well.

Result?

Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault.
[Switching to Thread 1024 (LWP 12532)]
0x0807b94e in KDialog::marginHint ()

PS, when I re-opened kmail normally after the test, the outbound offending 
email had reached the outbox, and was sent normally albeit, kmail used 50 MG 
of ram, when I sent this message.

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> ------- Additional Comments From kloecker@kde.org  2003-05-29 00:30 -------
> Subject: Re:  New: kmail attachment large file crash
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> Please run kmail with gdb ('gdb /pathtokmail/kmail' and then 'run
> --nofork') and reproduce the crash. You should then get a backtrace
> with 'bt'.
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> I just tried to send a 23 MB attachment with KMail 1.5.2. Apart from the
> facts that my SMTP server rejected the message (Error: message too
> large) and that KMail used the incredible amount of 270 MB (after
> starting it consumed ~40 MB and after attaching the 23 MB is consumed
> ~70 MB) everything worked. No crash.

*** Bug 58615 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

*** Bug 17067 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

*** Bug 61959 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

I actually tested KMail 1.5.93 [KDE 3.1.93 (CVS>=20031028)] and it still is being closed by out of memory killer after eating whole system memory and swap (512+1024 MB total) for encoding ~110MB of attachment. It's insane quantity of attachment but still...

Michael, can you still reproduce this problem, i.e. the crash due to a segmentation fault, not the ridiculous amount of memory KMail uses? If yes, then please either try with a self-compiled version of the latest stable KMail version (cf. http://kmail.ingo-kloecker.de/) or with a self-compiled (with full debug information) KMail from KDE 3.2beta1 or later.

Sorry, just been really swamped here with the business, and haven't had 10 minutes to set aside to test this again..  And my main box is in a certain state that I dont' want to add a kmail compiled from source right now, will have to test it on a seperate server.. Sorry, that I am not more helpful right now Ingo, days dont' have enough hours..  I will ATTEMPT to set aside a time, but this issue is a lower priority for me, and since most of our clients aren't sending large files, they haven't complained about it, so hard to treat this as a support incident.

*** Bug 15465 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

*** Bug 83703 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

Attached a 184mb  file it took about 1 minute. Tried to send kmail disappeared meaning it possibly get killed.

*** Bug 87152 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

*** Bug 92878 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

*** Bug 87309 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

*** Bug 100431 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

Just confirming that this still happenes in kmail 1.8 (novell linux desktop, w/ suse 9.2 kde rpm's), the swap usage goes up and up when trying to view (the email) a 18MB video (that was attatched in the email)... don't have any concrete figures, but I'd say it used up an extra 200MB to try to open it, and became unresponsive (on a Athlon 2800+ w/ 512MB ram).
Thanks!

Sorry that I ask, but this bug seems to be open since almost 2 years. I myself encounter problems whenever I have to handle emails with attachments >5MB (temporary lookups, even crashes). Is there no resolution for this problem?

>Is there no resolution for this problem?

Thunderbird :-)

*** Bug 105051 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

I just tested this with KDE-3.5.5 (Intel(R) Pentium(R) M processor 2.00GHz, 1GB RAM): kmail now limits to create attachement > 30MB; still with 30MB kmail is very responsive. Yes, it needs some more memory (~200MB), but it's still ok and clicking on the mail reacts in a few seconds.

For me it looks like a workaround has been implemented in current kmail, therefore I close this.

using kmail 1.12.3 on kde 4.3.3 trying to attach a 141M size file will result in very high memory usage (more than 1G + 1G swap) and then kmail being killed

same operation using thunderbird does not show ANY increase in memory usage

please reopen this

Reopening per comment #24.
There can be no doubt that this behaviour persists on kmail2.
I basically reproduced it on KDE 4.8.90:

I'm starting with a basic memory footprint of 38M.
Adding a 29M large attachment to a new message adds ~22M of memory to the footprint, saving the message as draft temporarily takes another 90M of memory.
53M RAM are never released until restarting kmail.

So you add big attachment and kmail takes memory ?
Will look at it soon.

it increases each time that you attach a file or just once ?

because ok memory increases but not each time that I attach file.

This bug has only been reported for versions before 4.14, which have been unsupported for at least two years now. Can anyone tell if this bug still present?

If noone confirms this bug for a Framework-based version of kmail2 (version 5.0 or later, as part of KDE Applications 15.12 or later), it gets closed in about three months.

Just as announced in my last comment, I close this bug. If you encounter it again in a recent version (at least 5.0 aka 15.08), please open a new one unless it already exists. Thank you for all your input.