Bug 70063 - global shortcuts don't work when any popup is active
Summary: global shortcuts don't work when any popup is active
Status: RESOLVED FIXED
Alias: None
Product: kdelibs
Classification: Frameworks and Libraries
Component: qt (show other bugs)
Version: unspecified
Platform: unspecified Linux
: NOR normal
Target Milestone: ---
Assignee: Lubos Lunak
URL:
Keywords:
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Reported: 2003-12-10 22:24 UTC by Derick Swanepoel
Modified: 2017-06-02 03:32 UTC (History)
61 users (show)

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Latest Commit:
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Attachments
qt4.4.0 patch (6.41 KB, patch)
2008-07-25 17:27 UTC, Lubos Lunak
Details
grabtest.c (1.28 KB, text/x-csrc)
2015-11-13 13:14 UTC, ultr
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Description Derick Swanepoel 2003-12-10 22:24:24 UTC
Version:            (using KDE KDE 3.1.94)
Compiler:          gcc (GCC) 3.3.2 20031022 (Gentoo Linux 3.3.2-r3, propolice) 
OS:          Linux

When a combo box (or drop-down list, or whatever) is active, none of the KDE shortcuts work (at least, I haven't found a shortcut that _does_ work, so I'm assuming that none work).
Comment 1 Lubos Lunak 2003-12-11 10:26:40 UTC
Not simple to fix, if it's possible at all.
Comment 2 Lubos Lunak 2004-01-29 16:18:06 UTC
*** Bug 73730 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 3 Vedran Ljubovic 2004-02-14 23:15:07 UTC
Very annoying when you start typing URL and realise that you need to change your keyboard layout (Ctrl+Alt+K)
Comment 4 Lubos Lunak 2004-02-23 19:27:24 UTC
*** Bug 63141 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 5 Stanislav Karchebny 2004-03-26 16:19:52 UTC
Really annoying behavior, any clues of what might be causing it?
Comment 6 Maksim Orlovich 2004-03-29 03:51:17 UTC
Because it calls XGrabKeyboard, IIRC; this is most likely to prevent some sort of races/confusion, but I am not sure
Comment 7 Lubos Lunak 2004-04-17 16:03:17 UTC
*** Bug 78761 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 8 Stephan Binner 2004-08-06 08:53:02 UTC
*** Bug 86557 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 9 Lubos Lunak 2004-08-09 20:00:54 UTC
*** Bug 86864 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 10 Lubos Lunak 2004-11-19 19:01:12 UTC
*** Bug 53315 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 11 Lubos Lunak 2004-11-22 13:16:40 UTC
*** Bug 93571 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 12 Lubos Lunak 2005-01-25 14:16:56 UTC
*** Bug 97733 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 13 Lubos Lunak 2005-06-20 15:07:06 UTC
*** Bug 107696 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 14 Susanne Oberhauser 2005-09-02 15:10:36 UTC
this is annoying me, too.

I often switch between english and german on an english keyboard layout, especially in apps like konqueror.

So my keyboard shortcut is kind of hard-coded into my typing.

often when I find I need or don't need anymore umlauts typing a url like gg:füsch or http://...  I

  get the wrong character
  backspace
  keyboard switch (fails because of this bug)
  get the wrong character again
  backspace again
  escape to get rid of the completions
  keyborad switch again
  get the right character

I understand it's not the highest on the list but it's annoying.


thx
Comment 15 Lubos Lunak 2006-03-15 13:55:20 UTC
*** Bug 123657 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 16 Maksim Orlovich 2006-03-18 16:24:11 UTC
*** Bug 123840 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 17 FiNeX 2006-07-29 11:17:36 UTC
This behavior is still present in KDE 3.5.3 ...
Comment 18 Martin Rehn 2007-04-03 20:25:37 UTC
The same bahaviour also occurs whenever a menu, any menu, including the K menu and applications menus is open. Not to be outdoneby Susanne (#14), an example of when this is irritating is this:

1. Browse K menu to find an application.
2. Realise that this application might play sound and I don't want that right now.
3. Try pressing the volume control or mute buttons.
4. It does not work. Close menu, adjust volume, navigate menu again.
Comment 19 Martin Rehn 2007-04-03 20:36:42 UTC
Bug 123657 informs us that the same thing happens for right-click menus. Bug 107696 notes that it applies when passive windows pop up; "say for example autocomplete/intellisense in KDevelop".

So we have:
1) Combo boxes and friends (e.g. address field in Konqueror, autocomplete/form field suggestions on web pages)
2) Menus: application menus, RMB menus, K menu
3) (anything else?)
Comment 20 Pino Toscano 2007-08-02 22:50:14 UTC
*** Bug 148465 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 21 Pino Toscano 2007-08-02 23:32:20 UTC
*** Bug 143766 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 22 Lubos Lunak 2007-08-23 15:59:26 UTC
*** Bug 147419 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 23 Matthew Dawson 2007-09-09 21:54:23 UTC
After investigating problem, it seems this problem also occurs with Qt only 
applications, and still occurs with Qt 4.3(with qt-copy patches) as well as 
Qt 3.3.  When trying to narrow down to what call grabbed the keyboard, I also 
discovered that when the window with the popup does not have focus, shortcuts 
will still work.

Tested on KDE 3.5.7 with volume controls/Xmodmap and a svn checkout of qt-copy 
from KDE for Qt 4.3.
Comment 24 Pino Toscano 2007-10-30 20:21:13 UTC
*** Bug 151573 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 25 Andriy Rysin 2007-11-08 21:09:31 UTC
*** Bug 139543 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 26 Pino Toscano 2007-11-18 14:52:37 UTC
*** Bug 152511 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 27 Andriy Rysin 2007-11-18 17:03:38 UTC
In KDE4 kxkb allows to use XKB shortcuts to switch keyboard layout, and if you use those popup windows won't stand in a way. So at least for layout switching (which I understand is most of the cases) we have a workaround.
Comment 28 Daniel Duris 2007-11-18 17:07:38 UTC
why is it not possible to publish fix for kde 3.x+.

why shoudl users be forced to wait for kde 4, which is nowhere yet to be released.
Comment 29 Stefan Majewsky 2007-11-18 17:16:08 UTC
Why should a patch for KDE 3 be released? KDE 4 comes in one month, and I'm sure that many users are already using it (me, for instance). If at all, there would be a source code patch, but people who apply source codes rather than installing packages are in most cases programmers.

@Andriy Rysin (#27): Keyboard layouts are not the only problem. I do not use different keyboard layouts, but I still find this bug annoying because a very big part of my KDE installation is to be accessed by shortcuts.
Comment 30 premierSullivan 2007-11-19 01:40:04 UTC
Has there been any confirmation or even an indication that kde 4 will fix this problem?  It may still be an issue.  If it hasn't been fixed in kde 4 its unlikely to be fixed in kde 3... anyway, KDE is still planning to release a 3.5.9 (for some reason) so if there is a workaround, it may still be included in kde 3.
Comment 31 Pino Toscano 2007-12-03 22:59:29 UTC
*** Bug 153044 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 32 Pino Toscano 2007-12-04 22:12:17 UTC
*** Bug 142059 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 33 Pino Toscano 2007-12-18 11:24:17 UTC
*** Bug 154264 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 34 Lubos Lunak 2008-01-24 17:07:13 UTC
*** Bug 145732 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 35 Bram Schoenmakers 2008-04-12 23:52:17 UTC
*** Bug 160751 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 36 Lubos Lunak 2008-07-25 17:27:53 UTC
Created attachment 26407 [details]
qt4.4.0 patch

This Qt patch allows global shortcuts to work while a Qt applications shows a
popup, by not grabbing the keyboard when a window from the application already
has focus (i.e. it gets already keyboard events anyway). Which means it still
doesn't work e.g. with K-Menu or non-Qt applications.

There is also the problem that when a popup is open and another one, e.g. from
Klipper or the logout dialog, is open, then the new one does not have
keyboard/mouse grab (because mouse grab is already taken by the first popup),
making the new popup basically useless. It'd probably require manager selection
for passing the grab around or something, and it'd be only opt-in.
Comment 37 Pino Toscano 2008-09-15 18:28:38 UTC
*** Bug 171116 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 38 Frank Reininghaus 2008-09-29 19:57:02 UTC
*** Bug 150442 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 39 Pino Toscano 2008-10-04 11:34:13 UTC
*** Bug 127751 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 40 jan sekal 2008-12-29 11:34:55 UTC
I can confirm this bug, and it lasts at least one year and something.
Comment 41 Sasha Unspecified 2009-01-08 23:31:28 UTC
This is annoying me, too.
The bug is still present in KDE 4.2 Beta2.
Comment 42 Sasha Unspecified 2009-01-08 23:55:33 UTC
The most annoying effect of this bug for me is that I cannot change keyboard layout (I use Win+Z to switch layout) while typing an URL in Firefox or any other browser (because browsers drop down the list when typing in location bar).


Since 3.1.94 to 4.2 Beta2 -- not fixed yet -- very pity.
If this bug is really hard to fix -- may be use some workaround? For example, could the following option be available to users(?): To make all comboboxes automatically closed when Ctrl, Alt or Win modifier key is pressed. As any global shortcut starts with modifier, this will help. Of course, this is not so handy as processing shortcuts without closing popups -- but it would be much much better than ignoring global shortcuts at all.
Comment 43 Christian González 2009-01-09 22:04:49 UTC
Is the patch of Lubos Lunak being accepted - or should someone go and inform Qt Software about this?
Comment 44 Paweł Prażak 2009-01-30 12:51:10 UTC
I confirm this on KDE 4.2, it happens with firefox url list, as mentioned, but not with same list in konqueror.
Comment 45 Karthik Periagaram 2009-02-06 22:01:08 UTC
Another instance of this bug ... bugging users is the use of keyboard shortcuts for desktop effects. I scroll down a pop up menu and realize that I need to get something from another window in another desktop. I'd like to use the keyboard shortcut to activate the desktop grid (or present windows), but I can't. This is annoying. Thanks in advance for fixing/working on fixing this!
Comment 46 Dotan Cohen 2009-04-27 11:20:57 UTC
In Kubuntu 9.04 with KDE 4.2 I can say that these features work:
1) When typing in Firefox addressbar with dropdown active, I can switch keyboard layouts with Shift-Alt
2) When typing in Konqueror addressbar with dropdown active, I can switch keyboard layouts with Shift-Alt
3) When typing in Konqueror addressbar with dropdown active, I can switch windows with Atl-Tab
4) When typing in Konqueror addressbar with dropdown active, I can open krunner with Alt-F2
5) When searching in Lancelot's Applications menu, I can switch languages with Shift-Alt
6) When searching in Lancelot's Applications menu, I can switch windows with Atl-Tab

And these features do not work:
1) When typing in Firefox addressbar with dropdown active, I can not switch windows with Atl-Tab
2) When typing in Firefox addressbar with dropdown active, I can not open krunner with Alt-F2
Comment 47 Christoph Feck 2009-04-29 05:03:06 UTC
*** Bug 190991 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 48 Martin Flöser 2009-05-24 13:04:09 UTC
*** Bug 193624 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 49 Vsevolod Krishchenko 2009-07-19 19:15:00 UTC
> When typing in Konqueror addressbar with dropdown active, I can open krunner
with Alt-F2

Still Alt-F2 does not work when recent urls list drop down manuall in address bar.  Active popup menu in Konqueror prevents shortucts too.
Comment 50 esigra 2009-11-25 02:45:32 UTC
Works for me in KDE 4.3.3. Thanks for fixing!
Comment 51 Alexander Potashev 2009-11-25 11:57:36 UTC
(In reply to comment #50)
> Works for me in KDE 4.3.3. Thanks for fixing!

Doesn't work for me in KDE 4.3.3
Comment 52 Daniel Duris 2009-11-25 12:04:02 UTC
works for me in KDE 4.2.2
Comment 53 Alexander Potashev 2009-11-25 12:36:38 UTC
(In reply to comment #52)
> works for me in KDE 4.2.2

Which version of Qt are you using?
Comment 54 Alex 2009-11-25 12:48:55 UTC
Does not work for me with KDE 4.3.3 and QT 4.5.2 (Ubuntu Karmic)
Comment 55 Susanne Oberhauser 2009-11-25 13:14:25 UTC
still broken for me on opensuse 11.1.

I can't switch windows with m-tab nor switch keyboard layout with c-m-k

opensuse 11.1
0 froh@byron:~ $ konqueror --version
Qt: 4.5.3
KDE: 4.3.1 (KDE 4.3.1) "release 179"
Konqueror: 4.3.1 (KDE 4.3.1) "release 178"
Comment 56 Daniel Duris 2009-11-25 14:27:31 UTC
> works for me in KDE 4.2.2

>>Which version of Qt are you using?

4.5.0
Comment 57 Christoph Feck 2010-01-19 14:16:17 UTC
*** Bug 223364 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 58 Victor 2010-02-24 16:58:31 UTC
Does not work for me.

Kde sc 4.4.0

qt-4.6.2-1.fc12.x86_64
Comment 59 Kai Uwe Broulik 2010-03-07 04:42:09 UTC
I assigned Meta+Arrow keys as global shortcut for volume control. When I have opened e.g. a context menu and decide to change the volume then I cycle through the menu items with the arrow keys instead of changing volume...
Comment 60 David Faure 2010-10-13 01:39:27 UTC
I confirm that opening the konqueror location-bar combobox (with the mouse; I'm not talking about the auto-completion popup), and then pressing Alt+F2, does not work.

I also confirm that Lubos' patch is not in Qt (I checked 4.6 and 4.7). I just applied it to my Qt-4.6 (it applies cleanly) and restarted konqueror, and .... it works! I can use Alt+F2, switch desktops, etc.

Lubos: I guess the reason you didn't send it to Qt (as a merge request or even as a bugreport) is the limitations you mention in comment #36? I can't reproduce the problem you mention with multiple popups, the first one closes whenever I try to open another one.
Comment 61 Christoph Feck 2010-11-02 19:59:12 UTC
*** Bug 255909 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 62 ultr 2011-04-04 13:32:24 UTC
I think this is not fixable.

Popup menus grab keyboard and mouse using X11 calls: XGrabKeyboard and XGrabPointer.
KDE will not receive any shortcut events during the time such grab is active.
Comment 63 David Faure 2011-04-19 20:34:05 UTC
ultr: obviously it's not that simple, since the patch from #36 works. If I read it correctly, it makes popups not grab the keyboard when they don't need to (because the popup is the active window anyway, so it will get keyboard events) -- but I'm not very good at reading Xlib-related code.
Comment 64 ultr 2011-04-19 20:39:16 UTC
Yes, but this only solves the problem in Qt programs. If GTK application continues to grab the keyboard, there is probably nothing KDE can do about it.
Comment 65 Daniel Duris 2011-04-19 22:41:28 UTC
The Global shortcuts should take priority over any pop-up or pop-over layers or
menus, even if contextual.
Comment 66 Christoph Feck 2011-05-30 22:36:13 UTC
*** Bug 274539 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 67 Christoph Feck 2011-07-25 18:25:57 UTC
Lubos/David, what is the status of this bug/patch? Has there been an attempt to get this into Qt? It is an upstream problem, so it doesn't belong here.
Comment 68 Lubos Lunak 2011-08-01 13:45:23 UTC
Feel free to try to push the patch upstream.
Comment 69 Oswald Buddenhagen 2011-08-01 16:53:09 UTC
the loop in the second hunk can be made less arcane:

while (QWidget *popup = qApp->activePopupWidget())
    popup->close();

i can't comment on the patch in detail, but it seems plausible, so feel free to submit upstream for discussion. lubos, note that you need to do that yourself for legal reasons.
Comment 70 Germano Massullo 2011-11-28 15:46:45 UTC
I can write my experience:
if I open KDE menu, and press the laptop's keyboard shortcuts to manage brightness, they will not work.
Comment 71 ultr 2011-11-28 18:24:38 UTC
Dan Duris: This is not about priorities. This is about grabbing keyboard events completely so that they are no longer received by any X client other than the popup owner - including window manager (kwin) and any other component of KDE.


This patch is of course an improvement of Qt library, but it will not SOLVE this issue.
Solution will be partial: popups created by Qt applications will stop blocking global shortcuts, but popups from GTK based applications won't.
This will cause the user experience to be incoherent.

And duplicates of this bug will continue to appear, because users do not care/understand why this will not work in GTK applications.


GTK has to fix this as well in the same way. But I wouldn't count on its developers.
Comment 72 Dotan Cohen 2011-11-28 18:46:10 UTC
> This will cause the user experience to be incoherent.
>

Not incoherent, but maybe inconsistent. However, many (most) other KDE bugs that cause inconsistency between Qt and GTK are handled by doing the right thing in Qt and ignoring whatever GTK does. Therefore the fact that GTK apps will still have the problematic popup is not a reason to not fix this issue in Qt apps.
Comment 73 Susanne Oberhauser 2011-11-29 11:49:16 UTC
(In reply to comment #64, #71, #72)
> [what about GTK?]
Is this a problem with gtk based apps at all??


FWIW, this looks now fixed for me:  I'm currently running KDE 4.7.2 from KDE:KDE4:STABLE:Desktop on an openSUSE 11.3.

With pop-ups open, global shortcuts work for me in both gtk and qt based applications (firefox, google-chrome for gtk, konqueror for qt 4.7.4).
Comment 74 ultr 2011-11-29 13:06:41 UTC
Dotan Cohen:

Yes, inconsistent was what I meant.

> Therefore the fact that GTK apps will still
> have the problematic popup is not a reason
> to not fix this issue in Qt apps.

Not at all. I'm totally for this improvement in Qt.

I'm just saying it will not fix the problem everywhere, unless this change is implemented in every toolkit.
Or the fix is done somewhere else where it will affect all the applications, ex. in x11lib. But I guess they will not agree to modify grabbing system just because toolkits handle it wrong.


Susanne Oberhauser:

Are you sure you have tested it with popups like *context menus* or *main menus*?
Popup windows (ex. JavaScript alert() in web browsers) are not popups in this context, because they do not grab mouse and/or keyboard.
Comment 75 Susanne Oberhauser 2011-11-29 17:18:48 UTC
(In reply to comment #74)
> Susanne Oberhauser:
> 
> Are you sure you have tested it with popups like *context menus* or *main
> menus*?
> Popup windows (ex. JavaScript alert() in web browsers) are not popups in this
> context, because they do not grab mouse and/or keyboard.

I originally had the issue with the URL in konqueror.  I typed "gg:süß", the history starting "gg:" popped up, I saw gg:s[-, and I realized I need to switch keyboard and then the shortcut didn't cut it :)

as per now, in all three brosers (konqeror, firefox, chrome) the shortcuts work with the pop up open.  the same works for the main menu in chrome and the file menu in kmail2.
Comment 76 Simon Persson 2011-11-30 04:34:01 UTC
(In reply to comment #75)
> I originally had the issue with the URL in konqueror.  I typed "gg:süß", the
> history starting "gg:" popped up, I saw gg:s[-, and I realized I need to switch
> keyboard and then the shortcut didn't cut it :)
> 
> as per now, in all three brosers (konqeror, firefox, chrome) the shortcuts work
> with the pop up open.  the same works for the main menu in chrome and the file
> menu in kmail2.
See comment #27. Switching keyboard layouts does work (the main shortcut for this is handled directly by xkb), but the global kde shortcuts do not... and that's what this bug is about.
Comment 77 Jekyll Wu 2013-04-01 06:11:05 UTC
*** Bug 298021 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 78 Jekyll Wu 2013-06-09 03:18:30 UTC
*** Bug 320937 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 79 uc 2013-06-26 18:04:50 UTC
FYI:  ksnapshot 4.10.3-1.30.1 will not capture a screen view if there is a menu pulled down in the Thunderbird 17.0.6 configuration page (specifically, the list of authentication methods).
KDE  4.10    openSuse 12.3    libqt 4.2.4

Posted here because a more specific bug was marked as a duplicate of this one.
Comment 80 Christoph Feck 2013-12-05 19:44:49 UTC
*** Bug 328463 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 81 Christoph Feck 2014-05-25 22:50:01 UTC
*** Bug 335333 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 82 Christoph Feck 2015-07-28 12:36:25 UTC
*** Bug 349802 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 83 Martin Flöser 2015-07-30 14:23:45 UTC
Good news: Plasma 5.4 will come with a new experimental Wayland backend. With Wayland we are able to better handle this situation and this issue should already be fixed in 5.4 on top of Wayland.

Given that it is an issue with X11 and unfixable with X11 I dare to mark the bug as resolved.
Comment 84 Philippe Cloutier 2015-08-02 00:09:03 UTC
Thank you for these good news Martin, but users will not stop using X11 because this doesn't affect it.
That Wayland is not affected does not resolve the bug. 

Unless this is not considered a KDE bug (in which case this should be marked INVALID), this should be retitled to specify X11 specificity and reopened until it is fixed in KDE, or until KDE drops support for X11.
Comment 85 Christian González 2015-08-02 02:31:10 UTC
Thanks Filipus Klutiero,, agreed.
Looking at the votes, this is no minor bug.
Comment 86 Martin Flöser 2015-08-10 07:35:22 UTC
I'm sorry but this bug is not fixable with X11. It's a design problem in the X11 protocol and thus cannot be fixed on X11. It's pointless to keep the bug open for X11 as it cannot be fixed. Also there is no other place to report the bug and get it fixed. As it's a design problem in the X11 protocol it can only be fixed by a different protocol - e.g. Wayland.

As this happened now and we have support for it, I consider this bug as fixed. Please note that in KDE bugtracker we mark bugs as resolved fixed as soon as there is code which fixes the bug, not when it reaches the users. This might be unfortunate for the user, but it's the only way how we developers can handle our bugs.
Comment 87 Philippe Cloutier 2015-08-10 10:56:14 UTC
This is certainly fixable with X11. Even if it was not going to be fixed, there would be a point in keeping the ticket open, i.e. allowing users to find it.

Indeed, tickets are marked as resolved when there is code which fixes, not when we find a context where "the bug does not appear".
Comment 88 Dotan Cohen 2015-08-10 11:11:12 UTC
> Given that it is an issue with X11 and unfixable with X11 I dare to mark the bug
> as resolved.

Though I agree with the RESOLVED status if KDE devs have no intention of working on this, I disagree with the RESOLVED FIXED status unless KDE has Wayland as an official dependency. Perhaps RESOLVED WONTFIX would be more appropriate?

I say this with complete respect for the KDE devs and their time. I have nothing but appreciation for you guys!
Comment 89 Martin Flöser 2015-08-10 11:17:41 UTC
> This is certainly fixable with X11

No, it's not. The problem is that a popup window normally grabs the keyboard and while the keyboard is grabbed no other process is able to get key events. The result is global shortcuts cannot work. As long as the X11 protocol allows to grab the keyboard and as long as there is no global shortcut support directly integrated into the X11 protocol this is unfixable. For both we need a new protocol - we can call it X12 or Wayland, doesn't matter.

> I disagree with the RESOLVED FIXED status unless KDE has Wayland as an official dependency

Wayland has been a hard dependency of the Plasma workspace since the 5.2 release. Wayland is used already every time you lock the screen.

So let's not discuss semantics. I as the developer working on this issue decided that it's fixed and let's please stop the discussion about that. It just takes my time away from working on Wayland support :-)
Comment 90 Dotan Cohen 2015-08-10 11:28:14 UTC
> Wayland has been a hard dependency of the Plasma workspace since
> the 5.2 release. Wayland is used already every time you lock the screen.

I did not know that. If that is the case, then the issue is closed!

> So let's not discuss semantics. I as the developer working on this issue decided
> that it's fixed and let's please stop the discussion about that. It just takes my time
> away from working on Wayland support :-)

Thank you Martin. As always, your valuable time is appreciated! Have a terrific week!
Comment 91 Philippe Cloutier 2015-08-11 00:36:28 UTC
Martin,
It may remain forever the case that global shortcuts don't work when any popup is active in X11. But that stops being a bug when users stop being deceived, for example thanks to documentation.

I do not consider you or anyone as "the developer working on this issue", but in any case, nobody decides that bugs are fixed. Anybody can fix bugs, or not.
No one has asked you to participate or even monitor this discussion. All you were asked is to leave the ticket open until the issue is solved, just like we ask anyone to do with any ticket.
Comment 92 Dotan Cohen 2015-08-11 09:08:54 UTC
@Filipus: You might notice that Martin is a KDE developer, is working on this issue, and furthermore he is the _only_ KDE developer that is working on this issue. Thus, he is "the developer working on this issue".

You are correct in the sense that anybody is welcome to contribute code for consideration to be included in KDE, thus if you would prefer that somebody else become "the developer working on this issue" then please convince them, or yourself, to do so. Until then, Martin remains "the developer working on this issue". As in free software as in love, badgering or insulting somebody until they do what you want will not work.
Comment 93 Martin Flöser 2015-08-11 09:10:12 UTC
Do whatever you want to do with this bug report, I'm out of here!
Comment 94 Philippe Cloutier 2015-08-11 23:43:15 UTC
Dotan, I do not think of someone who considers an issue solved as working on that issue. And if the solution is deprecating X11, this will involve more than a single developer. Besides, as I wrote, bugs are not fixed because people decide they are - they are fixed when the software is changed.
Comment 95 auxsvr 2015-08-12 06:05:22 UTC
This is a well-known limitation of the X protocol, as explained by both experts Lubos Lunak and Martin Gräßlin. Further discussion of this seems to be pointless now that Wayland is going to replace it.
Comment 96 bartek 2015-11-13 11:15:38 UTC
Maybe I'm not an expert, but If its a limitation of X protocol, then why bug doesn't occur in firefox? It also work under X....
Let me explain. When you activate popup (try right button menu) and then try any shortcut. In firefox popup will be simply closed and shortcut will be executed. This is the behaviour I would expect and if its possible in firefox it should be possible in KDE.
Comment 97 ultr 2015-11-13 13:13:26 UTC
@bartek

You are right, it works for Firefox. But not for apps created with Qt4, GTK2 and GTK3.

The reason is Firefox (XUL?) grabs only the mouse pointer and not the keyboard when displaying a context menu. While the rest of the above grab both mouse and keyboard, thus overriding separate keyboard grabs for the shortcuts.

So, to fix this issue we would need to modify Qt (maybe already fixed in Qt5?) and GTK not to unnecessarily (?) grab the keyboard when displaying menus.

Please find the 'grabtest' program in the attachment. It checks whether mouse and/or keyboard are already grabbed.
Comilation: gcc -lX11 grabtest.c -o grabtest
Test: Run "sleep 3 && ./grabtest" and quickly open a context menu

Results:
1) no context menu:
MOUSE GRAB SUCCEEDED
KEYBOARD GRAB SUCCEEDED
2) Firefox context menu:
MOUSE GRAB FAILED, already grabbed?
KEYBOARD GRAB SUCCEEDED
3) Qt4 context menu (tested with Konsole 4.14.2)
MOUSE GRAB FAILED, already grabbed?
KEYBOARD GRAB FAILED, already grabbed?
4) GTK2 context menu (tested with GIMP 2.8)
MOUSE GRAB FAILED, already grabbed?
KEYBOARD GRAB FAILED, already grabbed?
5) GTK3 context menu (tested with Cheese 3.14.1)
MOUSE GRAB FAILED, already grabbed?
KEYBOARD GRAB FAILED, already grabbed?
Comment 98 ultr 2015-11-13 13:14:23 UTC
Created attachment 95476 [details]
grabtest.c
Comment 99 ultr 2015-11-13 13:32:12 UTC
So, as auxsvr@gmail.com said, maybe the Wayland will fix this.
I just hope they have people who think about all the possible use-cases or leave wide space for extensions before creating the protocol...
(sorry for my ignorance, I didn't check the Wayland protocol yet)
Comment 100 Dmitry Alexandrov 2015-11-14 21:02:01 UTC
ultr> You are right, it works for Firefox. But not for apps created with Qt4, GTK2 and GTK3. 

Funny. On my Debian GNU/Linux Jessie this problem does *not* occur in Qt4 programs (including KDE software). While GTK- (v2 and v3, except of Mozilla’s software) and Tk-based interfaces are affected.

$ konqueror --version
Qt: 4.8.6
KDE Development Platform: 4.14.2
Konqueror: 4.14.2
Comment 101 Dmitry Alexandrov 2015-11-14 21:32:21 UTC
However, it’s quite possible that I just have not understood the point of the problem, since your ‘grabtest’ reports that ‘KEYBOARD GRAB FAILED’ for both Qt and GTK.
Comment 102 Christoph Feck 2016-08-05 14:52:00 UTC
*** Bug 366281 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 103 Christoph Feck 2017-06-02 03:32:09 UTC
*** Bug 380415 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***