I see this issue come up a lot in Bugzilla tickets online forums, and comments on my blog. Many users get confused about the difference between pinned apps in the Task manager, and apps added to the Panel as standalone launchers. They behave differently and their icons are different sizes; people get confused. The distinction is logical and makes sense from a developer perspective and from a flexibility standpoint: you want people to be able to create launchers on panels that lack a Task Manager widget. But for panels that *do* have a Task Manager, it seems like unnecessary duplication of functionality, and leads to situations where people have both standalone Launcher widgets as well as pinned apps in their Task Managers, and this is confusing because some disappear when launched and some don't, and they looks weird because their icons are sized differently. I have a possible suggestion: when a panel has a Task Manager widget that is capable of receiving pinned apps, remove Kicker/Kickoff's "Add to panel" menu item and make drag-and-drop operations pin an app in the Task Manager rather than creating a new launcher widget. Users should still be able to create standalone Panel launcher widgets by hand if they do it manually, but this would make it harder to do the wrong thing by mistake. Thoughts? I'm open to alternative approaches.
Yeah, the cost of being overly flexible to the point that it's messy. Concept wise, I think that's sensible. Keeping that neat and layered code-wise will be interesting. I think we'll want it so that containments accept all mimedata of child applets and creatable applets - and that it gets processed by existing applets first.
Related bug https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=315039
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*** Bug 391762 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Git commit 8d113b09598c0cd0f92d6395c7c7dec8c65fa735 by Nathaniel Graham. Committed on 21/05/2018 at 12:54. Pushed by ngraham into branch 'master'. [Kicker] Only show "Add to Panel (Widget)" When there's no Task Manager Summary: Users get confused by the difference between "Pin to Task Manager" and "Add to Panel (Widget)", and we get bugs about this. This patch resolves that confusion by only showing "Add to Panel (Widget)" when there's no Task Manager widget. FIXED-IN: 5.14.0 Test Plan: Dragging-and-dropping an app from Kicker or Kickoff pins it to the Task Manager if there's a Task Manager, or creates a Panel launcher if there's no Task Manager. Context menu items: Task Manager, widgets unlocked: {F5856628} Task Manager, Widgets locked: {F5856629} No Task Manager, Widgets unlocked: {F5856630} Task Manager, Widgets unlocked: {F5856631} Reviewers: #plasma, davidedmundson, mart Reviewed By: #plasma, mart Subscribers: mart, davidedmundson, plasma-devel Tags: #plasma Differential Revision: https://phabricator.kde.org/D12969 M +4 -4 applets/kicker/plugin/actionlist.cpp https://commits.kde.org/plasma-desktop/8d113b09598c0cd0f92d6395c7c7dec8c65fa735
This needs some more discussion and has been reverted for now, sorry :)
Why was it reverted?
(In reply to gamerbrownie2 from comment #7) > Why was it reverted? Oh sorry, I just read why on Phabricator.
My current idea is to revive the patch, but narrow the condition so that it only applies when using an Icons-Only Task Manager (not a regular one). The rationale would be that an IOTM user truly has no use for standalone app launchers in the same panel because the entire purpose of an IOTM is to hold app launchers internally. The type of person who wants a panel full of app icons they can click on to launch doesn't want standalone launcher widgets in that same panel. I just haven't gotten around do doing this yet. Feel free to take a crack if you've got the time!
As an alternate suggestion, is it possible to re-route that action on Kicker to add the icon to the (icon only) task manager instead, if that is available? I think that would best reflect what the user wants and not lose any functionality.
*** Bug 468892 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
*** Bug 474620 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
A possibly relevant merge request was started @ https://invent.kde.org/plasma/plasma-workspace/-/merge_requests/3330
Git commit 62f47a72a1f2d1114d0bb8db978690cf774a6235 by Niccolò Venerandi. Committed on 10/10/2023 at 14:57. Pushed by niccolove into branch 'master'. Only show "Add to Panel" in Kickoff if there is no task manager and make pinned apps behave as launchers on traditional TMs Only show "Add to Panel" in Kickoff if there is no task manager and make pinned apps behave as launchers on traditional TMs FIXED-IN:6.0 M +3 -5 applets/kicker/plugin/actionlist.cpp M +19 -1 libtaskmanager/tasksmodel.cpp M +22 -0 libtaskmanager/tasksmodel.h https://invent.kde.org/plasma/plasma-workspace/-/commit/62f47a72a1f2d1114d0bb8db978690cf774a6235