Bug 123624 - Implement MSN P2P file transfer
Summary: Implement MSN P2P file transfer
Status: RESOLVED UNMAINTAINED
Alias: None
Product: kopete
Classification: Applications
Component: WLM Plugin (show other bugs)
Version: unspecified
Platform: unspecified All
: NOR wishlist
Target Milestone: ---
Assignee: Kopete Developers
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Keywords:
: 121351 126919 128954 132104 133901 134611 193250 (view as bug list)
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Reported: 2006-03-14 18:27 UTC by Vincent Panel
Modified: 2018-11-08 14:12 UTC (History)
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Description Vincent Panel 2006-03-14 18:27:48 UTC
Version:            (using KDE KDE 3.5.1)
Installed from:    Mandriva RPMs

I'm at home, I've no NAT and opened the required ports for proper MSN file transfer. But when testing file transfer of the same file using amsn and kopete, the file is generally much much slower to transfer using kopete (more than 10 times). I tested it both when sending and when receiving files. Is it because of the way kopete handle file transfer in msn (maybe it is an indirect connection) ?
Comment 1 Vincent Panel 2006-03-14 18:28:58 UTC
I should add this behaviour is the same since quite a long time (maybe 6 months), the file transfer was much faster before (but what I say is quite subjective)
Comment 2 Chani 2006-03-14 19:05:51 UTC
file transfer code has changed in 0.12... I think it might be faster
now. you could try the beta and see :)

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Comment 3 Bartosz Fabianowski 2006-03-14 21:12:42 UTC
Kopete doesn't have an implementation of P2P file transfers yet. All files go through the server and this is why they are much slower than in aMSN. There are plans to add P2P support, of course, but it will probably not happen in the 0.12 timeframe. The KDE4 release of Kopete is a much more likely target.
Comment 4 Vincent Panel 2006-03-14 22:48:25 UTC
Thanks for having reformulated my idea with much more technical sense. KDE4 seems a reasonable target to me too. Reader, please, vote for this wish ! :) ()
Comment 5 Carlos Sanchis 2006-10-17 01:16:37 UTC
Kmess does have p2p transfers, would it be possible to just copy their implementation?
Comment 6 Paulo Fidalgo 2006-10-17 22:08:31 UTC
there's a new msn lib in the forge (libpappilon).
There maybe there's roof for implementation and improvements there... but off course if somebody make himself volunteer... this can happen any time ;)
Comment 7 Michaël Larouche 2006-12-14 21:24:46 UTC
*** Bug 133901 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 8 Michaël Larouche 2006-12-14 21:28:01 UTC
*** Bug 134611 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 9 Michaël Larouche 2006-12-14 21:29:20 UTC
*** Bug 121351 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 10 Michaël Larouche 2006-12-14 21:32:57 UTC
*** Bug 128954 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 11 Michaël Larouche 2006-12-14 21:34:24 UTC
*** Bug 126919 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 12 Michaël Larouche 2006-12-14 21:34:51 UTC
*** Bug 132104 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 13 Ernesto Ruge 2006-12-14 21:55:17 UTC
hmm ... my bug ( http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=132104 ) was about the problem, that almost no file transfer works in MSN because it breaks after a while - what has this to do with this topic / wish?
Comment 14 Michaël Larouche 2006-12-14 22:14:54 UTC
Yes, this is about implementing MSN file transfer the correct way, not using the fallback MS server. 
Comment 15 Ernesto Ruge 2006-12-14 22:44:25 UTC
dows orgininal MSN use P2P file transfer? I had also with original MSN Messenegr 7 a really bad connection (because of the slow MS server) - or has the live messenger implemented P2P transfer?
Comment 16 Matteo Croce 2007-03-14 13:18:34 UTC
can P2P work behind a NAT forwarding ports?
Comment 17 Volatore 2007-03-14 20:16:31 UTC
P2P doesn't work, never...
Comment 18 Francesco D'Offizi 2007-03-14 20:25:09 UTC
I notice really great differences between original msn and kopete in filetransfer (I've got a not configurable NAT so relay transfer is mandatory).
With kopete it's really slow while with msn is quite good! So implementation is still quite different... If I remember well I get good results even with AMSN... see its code!
Comment 19 Freddie 2007-08-10 12:12:58 UTC
Use aMSN guys, its way ahead on MSN in so many ways =)
Comment 20 alancio 2007-12-01 03:57:12 UTC
Is there any plan to solve this before KDE 4.0?
I am afraid that even if it is solved in KDE 4.0, there will be brand new bugs because of all the new changes, and we'll never have a usable version.
Comment 21 Francesco D'Offizi 2007-12-01 09:47:06 UTC
It's so frustrating that a bug filed over (and over) a year ago is still open, quite ignored. If mantainer has no time to follow this task he could ask some sort of help. Even thinking that correct code exists in an other gpl software (aMSN) shouldn't be so hard to port to kopete.

Hope this will be solved some way soon ...
Comment 22 Will Stephenson 2007-12-01 12:26:01 UTC
No, it won't be added in 4.0. The maintainer has no time.  We welcome help for 4.1.
Comment 23 Volatore 2007-12-01 13:41:14 UTC
I was in #kopete irc.freenode.net channel some months ago, and developers told me that msn p2p file transfer would be available in 4.0. So isn't that true, officially?
Comment 24 Will Stephenson 2007-12-03 08:04:26 UTC
Plans change, it is now delayed from 4.0
Comment 25 Matteo Croce 2008-03-27 20:59:31 UTC
4.1 will be out in april IIRC, is the fix postponed to kde 4.2?
Comment 26 FiNeX 2008-05-13 23:07:05 UTC
@Matteo: 4.1 is planned for july, not for april.
Comment 27 Pablo Montepagano 2008-05-14 02:37:57 UTC
anyway... when are you going to do this? this is a VERY old bug.
Comment 28 Matteo Croce 2008-08-02 17:11:33 UTC
Postponed to kde 5.0
Comment 29 Dennis Nienhüser 2008-08-02 17:46:53 UTC
There are no plans to postpone to or implement it for a specific release, so please ignore the comment above.
Comment 30 Pablo Montepagano 2008-08-02 21:13:11 UTC
I think that the irony was evident. If I knew how to code, I would do it myself. Instead, I had to migrate to emesene. However, it´s not as good as Kopete, since it has some bugs, and it only supports MSNP.
Comment 31 Matteo Croce 2008-09-13 04:29:55 UTC
Please change severity to normal:
"regular issue, some loss of functionality under specific circumstances"
Comment 32 Tiago Marques 2008-09-13 15:42:33 UTC
Look(In reply to comment #31)
> Please change severity to normal:
> "regular issue, some loss of functionality under specific circumstances"
> 

Look, i don't know for how long, years maybe, that I can't transfer a big file over MSN network with kopete. By big I mean more than 1MB!
I don't know if it's the lack of the P2P transfer, but slow or fast, it doesn't work right.
This IS IMPORTANT. How can someone expect to have kopete as a valid option, if it can't do one of the most useful MSN features right?
Best regards
Comment 33 Ivo 2008-09-13 15:59:38 UTC
(In reply to comment #32)
> This IS IMPORTANT. How can someone expect to have kopete as a valid option, if
> it can't do one of the most useful MSN features right?

Exactly! This is not just "some loss of functionality under specific circumstances", this is a *fundamental* feature of MSN that *never* works. A lot of people (including me) have been forced to switch to all kinds of horrible IM clients, just because Kopete doesn't fully implement the MSN protocols.
Comment 34 Josh 2008-09-13 16:32:21 UTC
Amen!!! This issue is vital. I know so many people who use alternative messengers because of this one issue. If the devs could get this fixed I'm sure it would make Kopete much more popular.
Comment 35 Kristjan Ugrin 2008-09-13 19:15:02 UTC
I agree.
Transfers are slow and most of times they don't finish properly.
Comment 36 Theresa 2008-09-14 10:16:33 UTC
the sad truth is I already moved onto Skype, because they DO file transfers with a proper speed, and with details on the file transfers (e.g Size of the File, Name/Location of the File, ETA, etc.....)
that's what I imagine file transfers to do....I was once told in the IRC kopete chat, that this will be worked on for KDE 4 (Kopete). But apparently it wasn't really?!

No offense to the KDE/Kopete Developers, I'm sure you're doing a good job, I'm just trying to point things out!
Comment 37 Matteo Croce 2008-11-06 15:47:30 UTC
anyone is working on it?
Comment 38 Nicolas L. 2008-11-24 21:36:52 UTC
moving this wish to the WLM plugin
Comment 39 Pablo Montepagano 2008-12-07 19:02:32 UTC
I wasn't able to test the SVN version of Kopete. KDE 4 compiles have brought several package collisions with the KDE 3 branch.

However, I would like to know if P2P transfers have been succesfully solved in the new WLM plugin. And, most specially, if that plugin will ever be backported to the 0.12 branch (Qt 3). My system is rather old and KDE4 is a big burden to my resources.
Comment 40 Volatore 2009-01-10 11:26:48 UTC
I think the new WLM plugin could be make available in the stable as option, you can choose between standard-old kopete MSN protocol and the new one, the WLM plugin. Hoping that WLM may work with p2p-file-transfer.
Comment 41 Adrián Chaves (Gallaecio) 2009-04-20 23:32:05 UTC
As someone said before, KMess already uses the new protocol, or at least makes file transfers really fast. Probably the way to make it posible would be talking to KMess developers.
Comment 42 Dario Andres 2009-05-22 18:40:00 UTC
*** Bug 193250 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 43 Andrew Crouthamel 2018-11-08 14:12:26 UTC
Hi there, sorry for the bad news, but WLM has been discontinued by Microsoft, so this bug will be closed.

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