Version: 2.1.1 (using 4.2.90 (KDE 4.2.90 (KDE 4.3 Beta2)), Kubuntu packages) Compiler: cc OS: Linux (x86_64) release 2.6.30-020630-generic Whenever I play playlist i Amarok 2.1.1 it plays the next song from it's for 15th or 14th second. Don't know why, it did with KDE4.2.4 too and with Amarok 2.0 too.
I have this bug too. On Kubuntu Jaunty 64. KDE 4.2.4 and Amarok 2.1.1 Sometimes, song don't start at 0 second, but 30, 40 or even more... It did it with amarok 2.0 and 2.1
This only happens with FLAC files here, and not all the time, using 2.2-SVN, build 28.6.2009
By all accounts, it's likely related to this xine/flac bug: http://bugs.xine-project.org/show_bug.cgi?id=225 triggered when playing flac files and using the xine phonon backend, of course.
Not right, for me it does to all of the mp3 not just FLAC.... but you are right that it don't do always, sometimes it plays these song OK and sometimes it is unuasble due to this bug and only re-login helps.
OK, for mp3's, http://bugs.xine-project.org/show_bug.cgi?id=76
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reassigning to phonon, there is little Amarok can do about that, sorry.
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Since the bugs about truncated playback with xine have been duplicated to this bug, I'll make my comment here. I see the very last seconds cut from mp3 and flac (and sometimes ogg) files. This is most noticeble with speech as incomplete sentences are hard to miss. I managed to reproduce this on three machines and with both Fedora 11 and Fedora 12/rawhide (though not all combinations of machine and OS were tested). I extracted the ogg audio from http://www.redhat.com/v/magazine/ogg/NET_MAN.ogg using oggSplit from oggvideotools and then cut a small snippet of speech out using audacity: $ cat labels.txt 95.546667 107.226667 Snippet where the label boundaries are snapped to cdda frames. I then exported the snippet as ogg, mp3 and as flac and played each with kmplayer. When I use phonon-backend-xine then the .flac and .mp3 files are truncated and the .ogg file is fine, but all files play to the end when I use phonon-backend-gstreamer. Playback is also fine with xine from the command line. Although fedora has pulseaudio I don't think it's responsible since I also tested bypassing pulseadio - interestingly even the .ogg files were truncated in this case. So while it might influence the bug, I don't think it causes it. (I bypassed PA by using the hardware device in the phonon device list. In case that was not enough I removed the pulseaudio alsa plugin, and then removed the pulseaudio package (though pulseaudio-libs was impossible to remove). In each case I made sure that PA was not running before the test and hadn't re-spawned after the test) Note: I first saw this on my machine, and confirmed it on a laptop and on a third machine. I repeated the tests on the laptop using both the original F11 liveiso as well as a recent live image from F12/rawhide. phonon-backend-gstreamer and standalone xine gave me problems with the snapshot I used, so not all possibilities were tested. 1: phonon-backend-xine is tested on fedora 11 and on 12/rawhide. 2: phonon-backend-gstreamer is tested on f11 but only with ogg on 12/rawhide 2a: gstreamer has been tested through totem in f12/rawhide and all files play fine. 3: xine in f11 is tested for ogg and mp3, but crashes on the flac. xine in rawhide didn't start for any of the files.
Created attachment 37555 [details] Interview snippet as a flac
Created attachment 37557 [details] Interview snippet as a mp3
Created attachment 37558 [details] Interview snippet as an ogg
I'm unable to reproduce here on ArchLinux. Does everyone have PulseAudio installed and/or running?
I am using pulseaudio (a fairly vanilla recent Kubuntu install) and observe this bug. On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 8:42 AM, Martin Sandsmark <sandsmark@samfundet.no> wrote: > https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=197584 > > > Martin Sandsmark <sandsmark@samfundet.no> changed: > > What |Removed |Added > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > CC| |sandsmark@samfundet.no > > > > > --- Comment #14 from Martin Sandsmark <sandsmark samfundet no> 2009-10-14 17:42:24 --- > I'm unable to reproduce here on ArchLinux. > > Does everyone have PulseAudio installed and/or running? > > -- > Configure bugmail: https://bugs.kde.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email > ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- > You are on the CC list for the bug. >
I just managed to reproduce it on the chakra alpha 3 livecd, where I don't think pulseaudio is installed. That is, I have truncation with the flac and the mp3 but not the ogg - tested with kaffeine (seems to be the new phonon-based version) and phonon-backend-xine. I didn't manage to test with kmplayer, phonon-backend-gstreamer or with standalone xine as I couldn't get wireless working to install packages.
I checked things on chakra again, this time with a net connection so I could install/update packages - but I still have truncation. I played back the snippets with kmplayer (using the phonon output) and still get truncation (of flac and mp3) with the phonon-backend-xine backend. I don't get any truncation with phonon-backend-gstreamer or phonon-backend-mplayer. xine-ui's xine also plays back all the snippets without truncation. Updating phonon-backend-xine from the version on the livecd to the latest available version (kdemod-phonon-backend-xine-4.3.1-7) didn't help either.
Can anyone else confirm this (the truncation) on the chakra alpha 3 livecd? Maybe it's hardware dependent?
So one thing I don't understand about this bug is the following: Amarok skips the first n seconds when starting to play the track, but, without fail, if I manually "rewind" the track position to the beginning, and start playing again, it plays from the start. This suggests that Amarok does indeed actually have control over this behavior. On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 10:21 AM, Oliver Henshaw <yoho_ahoy@hotmail.com> wrote: > https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=197584 > > > > > > --- Comment #18 from Oliver Henshaw <yoho_ahoy hotmail com> 2009-10-29 18:21:53 --- > Can anyone else confirm this (the truncation) on the chakra alpha 3 livecd? > Maybe it's hardware dependent? > > -- > Configure bugmail: https://bugs.kde.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email > ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- > You are on the CC list for the bug. >
I saw that there was a newer chakra live image (crush), so tried again with that. Still truncation with the flac and mp3 snippets. xine-lib 1.1.16.3-3 kdemod-phonon-backend-xine 4.3.1-7 kdemod-kdemultimedia-dragonplayer 4.3.2-1
So to recap, I can reproduce this at will with the pristine chakra livecd. Which also means that pulseaudio isn't involved in the truncation bug. Could someone important take note, and confirm this, please?
It does again in Amarok 2.2.2.
And in 2.2.9
Is this still valid with KDE SC 4.4.2/Phonon 4.4.0?
I don't know. I gave up on Amarok about 6 months ago because I'd been waiting about 6 months for it to be fixed. I'm using a different player now. One thing I brought up before which I still don't understand: Amarok is perfectly capable of playing from the beginning of the track if you manually rewind to the beginning of the track. I don't understand why "rewind to start upon beginning every track" can't be a valid workaround for this Phonon bug. --eric On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 4:02 AM, Myriam Schweingruber <myriam@kde.org> wrote: > https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=197584 > > > Myriam Schweingruber <myriam@kde.org> changed: > > What |Removed |Added > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Status|NEW |NEEDSINFO > Resolution| |WAITINGFORINFO > > > > > --- Comment #24 from Myriam Schweingruber <myriam kde org> 2010-04-06 13:02:51 --- > Is this still valid with KDE SC 4.4.2/Phonon 4.4.0? > > -- > Configure bugmail: https://bugs.kde.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email > ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- > You are on the CC list for the bug. >
Oliver, can you reproduce this? I tried many times and can't, everything works fine for me, using KDE SC 4.4.2/Phonon 4.4.0 and Amarok 2.3-git. This has always worked for me even with older versions.
This is starting to annoy me, too. I don't know how long it's been a problem on my system, but I've recently been re-ripping a lot of my CDs as FLAC, and now I'm noticing that the last second or so of FLAC tracks get cut off when playing in Amarok. If I play the track using mplayer (CLI), the entire track plays to the very end, but if I play it in Amarok, a piece at the end goes missing. I am using the Xine backend for Phonon (because I've never been able to make the GStreamer backend work). I have an Intel HDA chipset, and I'm using the digital optical output. No special ALSA configuration, just the defaults. One strange thing I do notice about Amarok's behavior: when nearing the end of playing a FLAC file, it throws up the OSD for the next track WAY early -- like several seconds before the current track finishes. This makes me believe Amarok is already starting to decode the next file (which is great because it means there ought to be no gaps between tracks), but why would it behave differently for FLAC files specifically? The OSD doesn't come up early when playing other file types.
Sorry Matt, but you did not specify what version you are talking about.
(In reply to comment #28) > Sorry Matt, but you did not specify what version you are talking about. Oh sorry. I am using Amarok 2.3.0, Phonon 4.4.0, and Phonon Xine 0.2.60.
I just reproduced it again with chakra-i686-panora-alpha5-v4.iso. The relevant packages seem to be: amarok 2.3.0-1 qtmod-phonon 4.4.0-1 xine-lib 1.1.18.1-1 Myriam, have you tried to reproduce this with the chakra live cd? At least then the only variable is hardware. Actually, this time I booted the livecd in virtualbox so even hardware can be eliminated.
Thank you for the feedback.
I consistently observe this bug on Arch Linux. For me, the last 2-3 seconds of the last flac file in a playlist are always skipped. This only happens with flac files, not mp3 or ogg. I'm using phonon-xine and alsa. The problem does not occur in the xine player or in kaffeine. I have similar configurations on two computers -- a laptop and a desktop -- and the problem is identical on both systems. I've found that it can be worked around be either putting the playlist on repeat or appending a short (1 second) silent file to the end of every playlist. Here are my package versions (all latest in Arch repos): amarok 2.3.2-3 / GIT-20110104 (and many other previous versions as well) xine-lib 1.1.19-2 phonon, phonon-xine 4.4.3-1 kdelibs 4.5.4-1 flac 1.2.1-2 If it would be helpful, I can easily test possible patches.
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Please use another backend, the xine backend is deprecated as the upstream development is stalled. You can choose between the gstreamer backend or the vlc backend, both are actively developed and maintained.
Sigh, and this is why I am discouraged from reporting bugs. They get beat around for years and finally marked "UNMAINTAINED". (Gave up on Amarok over a year ago, but still cc'd on this bug.)