| Summary: | menu when clicking on desktop | ||
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| Product: | [Unmaintained] plasma4 | Reporter: | haarman <haarman> |
| Component: | containment-desktop | Assignee: | Plasma Bugs List <plasma-bugs> |
| Status: | RESOLVED FIXED | ||
| Severity: | wishlist | CC: | a1bert, abosundso, aneurin.price, atolboo, bluedzins, chanika, christophe.dr, deischen, ewilcox, finex, h.doernhoff, kde, kde, kdebugs.99.urgwurz, kdebugs, kde_bugzilla_2, list, michael, moebius, pablo, racoonator |
| Priority: | NOR | ||
| Version: | unspecified | ||
| Target Milestone: | --- | ||
| Platform: | Ubuntu | ||
| OS: | Linux | ||
| Latest Commit: | Version Fixed In: | ||
| Sentry Crash Report: | |||
| Bug Depends on: | |||
| Bug Blocks: | 179679 | ||
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Description
haarman
2008-06-01 20:02:53 UTC
which menu? the main menu. On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 1:39 AM, FiNeX <finex@finex.org> wrote: [bugs.kde.org quoted mail] the main menu. <br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 1:39 AM, FiNeX <<a href="mailto:finex@finex.org">finex@finex.org</a>> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> ------- You are receiving this mail because: -------<br> You reported the bug, or are watching the reporter.<br> <br> <a href="http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=163016" target="_blank">http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=163016</a><br> finex finex org changed:<br> <br> What |Removed |Added<br> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------<br> CC| |finex finex org<br> <br> <br> <br> ------- Additional Comments From finex finex org 2008-06-02 01:39 -------<br> which menu?<br> </blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br>Groet,<br><br>Jordi<br><a href="http://synantics.nl">http://synantics.nl</a><br><a href="http://startu.net">http://startu.net</a> - esperanto startpagina Of course this feature should not be restricted to Kubuntu only. *** Bug 164817 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. *** Just in case... my reports was about customizing desktop context menu, not only showing KMenu. *** Bug 167729 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. *** And also just in case... my report wasn't about showing the kmenu when clicking on the desktop but about a user configurable menu for the middle mouse button (and left and right mouse button as the user wishes) when clicking on the desktop. *** Bug 168403 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. *** commenet #2
> the main menu.
What 'main menu'? Are you talking about the menu where you can start programs? Or the 'Windowlist' menu?
I vote this as the most messy bug of year 2008.</blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br><br><br>
On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 11:51 PM, Juha Tuomala <tuju@iki.fi> wrote: > > ------- Additional Comments From tuju iki fi 2008-08-05 23:51 ------- > commenet #2 > > the main menu. > > What 'main menu'? Are you talking about the menu where you can start > programs? Or the 'Windowlist' menu? > The 'start programs' menu. It would be nice if it would be flexible though and one could also add a custom menu or something > > I vote this as the most messy bug of year 2008.</blockquote></div><br><br > clear="all"><br><br><br> > it's more like a feature request that was in the 3.x series ;-) <div dir="ltr"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 11:51 PM, Juha Tuomala <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:tuju@iki.fi">tuju@iki.fi</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> <div class="Ih2E3d"><br> </div>------- Additional Comments From tuju iki fi 2008-08-05 23:51 -------<br> commenet #2<br> > the main menu.<br> <br> What 'main menu'? Are you talking about the menu where you can start programs? Or the 'Windowlist' menu?<br> </blockquote><div>The 'start programs' menu. It would be nice if it would be flexible though and one could also add a custom menu or something<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> <br> I vote this as the most messy bug of year 2008.</blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br><br><br><br> </blockquote></div><br>it's more like a feature request that was in the 3.x series ;-)<br> </div> So your report is about customizing KMenu/Kickoff right? '><</div>><<br>><<br>? clear="all" ><br> <br><br><br>!!!! Please don't put html in here -- it is quite obvious KDE Bugzilla puts them as raw text, so your (and not only yours) comment is complete mess. *** Bug 168403 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. *** *** This bug has been confirmed by popular vote. *** I'd like to have a custom menu on my middle mouse button and the option to have submenus in that custom menu for sorting my entries. Just a simple user configurable menu like the RMB context menu but with submenu option, no kickoff style. And the RMB context menu for the desktop should be user configurable too so that people can in- or decrease its functionality, length and complexity. And I also miss the option to call the kmenu (not kickoff style) from any mouse button I like. On my KDE3 desktop I have a middle mouse button menu where I put all actions/settings I miss in the RMB menu + a dcop link to the kmenu + my most used links + my favorite applications. It is perfect, just needs the option to sort the entries with submenus and horizontal rulers. Having more entries in context menus gives a cleaner desktop and it is much more efficient to move your hand/finger just a few milli- or centimeters in a context menu than having to travel to the menu button in the panel. IMHO KDE should be suitable for keyboard lovers, context menu lovers, desktop clutter lovers ;) and so on. Another idea for other optional mouse button menus would be the most used applications, the last used applications, internet bookmarks. If my mouse would have that much buttons (it alas just has three) I would want to have all those menus on mouse buttons. unfortunately it's a show stopper for me.. https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=157400 - is more generic Nope. It is something different -- in short "show plasmoid on N mouse button press". If we agreed for that on RMB we would have problem -- what if there is no plasmoid, or plasmoid crashed, etc. What to show then? RMB stands usually for context menu and this should be not changed. *** Bug 176918 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. *** OK. I knew my request (but 176918) would get lost behind some loosely related bug report/request, although I think you should read the entire request before marking it as a dup to a context menu request since I really wanted to get a desktop / panel widget that would let me simply access my browser's bookmarks. Since KDE4 is an entirely different desktop than KDE3, I do not think going backward is appropriate. IMHO, the forward looking solution should be to develop a set of (possibly similar) widgets to implement these requests for the KDE3 context menu functionality - e.g.: Bookmark menu, K menu, etc. I hope this clarifies what I am requesting, and if my request is still regarded as a dup of bug 163016, then so be it. Thank you If this is feature found in openSuSe 10.3 at: Settings > Desktop > Behaviour > ... after which one defined a custom menu activated when the middle mouse button was pressed, then it should be more than a "wishlist" severity. It is (was) a significant timesaver. Hi, Given this functionality already exists in 3.5, is it really a `Wish'? This is the number one reason why I'm still on KDE 3.5 I've been trying kde4 with kubuntu, mandriva and opensuse and i can't find back this essential feature : the ability to have the standard kde application menu appearing next to the mouse pointer, like a context menu, with a simple click on the background menu. I have this feature with kde3 and i use it every time. I'm certainly not the only one in that case. I cannot imagine using kde without this basic feature. I think the lack of this feature would definetely make my passing to kde4 as late as possible. pablo: yes, it is a wish in our classification system. christophe: yes, that's what this report is about. if this feature is really that incredibly important to you I guess you'll have to use kde3 a bit longer. of course it'll be possible again (in a more flexible way than in kde3 iirc) - we have plans for this, we just haven't had time to implement them yet. perhaps for 4.3... Hi Chani, I look forward to using, possibly, KDE 4.3. Thank you for your response and hard work. Thanks Chani, i'll use kde3 a bit longer. Waiting for this feature in kde4.3 . please. left, right, center click of mouse on desk top for menus is a great feature of kde and should not be dropped. thank you. (In reply to comment #23) > Hi, > > Given this functionality already exists in 3.5, is it really a `Wish'? > > This is the number one reason why I'm still on KDE 3.5 Exactly, this shouldn't be a "wish" and I am very tempted to open a new problem report on it. This is functionality that we've relied on for years that is suddenly not present. This is a major bug and is the reason I haven't moved to KDE4. To be clear, please restore the functionality that was in KDE 3.x as Control Center -> Desktop -> Behavior -> General tab -> Mouse Button Actions -> left/middle/right button -> Custom menu 1/2. It is indeed a great timer saver. I could even configure mouse buttons in old Motif mwm, why after all these years do we lose basic capability as this? I don't want to keep moving back to kicker or the classic menu, or clutter up my desktop with shortcuts. I want customizable desktop mouse menus that can be activated when the mouse is over *any* unoccupied area of the desktop. Technically speaking, plasma is a different product than kdesktop. This feature has not been dropped or disabled due to bugs on the code, but simply it has not been implemented. If a feature is not implemented and users would like it, the correct way to ask it is using a "WISH". :-) (In reply to comment #30) > Technically speaking, plasma is a different product than kdesktop. This feature > has not been dropped or disabled due to bugs on the code, but simply it has not > been implemented. If a feature is not implemented and users would like it, the > correct way to ask it is using a "WISH". :-) I believe you are side-stepping the problem. KDE has (for years) had this ability, and I use the word KDE in general because that is how most users view the product (not as kdesktop or plasma). If I were to make a new implementation of konqueror and not implement a basic feature such as the "back" button, you may say that it should go to a wish list, but most people would view that as a bug. If this feature was removed from the next release of KDE 3.x, would a problem report written against it be classified as a "wish"? I'm certain most users would maintain it is a real bug, not a wish list request. You are playing with words saying plasma is not kdesktop. I don't even know that the comparison is correct, which just proves my point, it is all *KDE* to me - the end user. The KDE team has given us a new *KDE* that has not implemented a basic feature and this is against POLA. Yes, lots of things have changed, but we do not expect that basic mouse configuration options would be missing. Howdy, At the risk of saying `me too' to Daniel's point, well .. `me-too' :p Seriously, Daniel's konqueror analogy is spot-on because the `mouse menu' is integral to those KDE users who use KDE (notice how I intentionally have left off the version - again in support to what was previously stated). When I upgraded to `openSUSE 11.1', I tried long and hard to find how to configure my mouse menu (KDE 4.1) and while researching, I found many users asking the same question. I'd recommend making the `mouse menu' functionality a high priority so we can get more users (power users in my opinion) testing KDE 4.x. And as always, I do _appreciate_ very much the developers. Thank you. (In reply to comment #32) > At the risk of saying `me too' to Daniel's point, well .. `me-too' :p > because the `mouse menu' is integral to those KDE users who use KDE You can also say me-too by voting this sucker instead of spamming something that 211 current votes just proves that you're wrong. 'me too', i think it's a bug. And i voted for it. Actually, it doesn't matter wether it's a bug or a wish. Provided we get our application menu with a mouse click on the desktop, or plasma, or whatever.... I love the developpers and i will love them more when i can take advantage of kde4 with mouse-click-on-desktop-application-menu. Thank you dear devs ! Don't forget to support button numbers beyond 3. I've got a five-button mouse that I bought for the infrared laser (I have to sleep in this room, so I don't want a red glow) and buttons 4 and 5 are essentially useless because nothing on my system lets me bind actions to buttons other than left/middle/right. IMHO bug or wish is not the point. The real point is that lacking of this feature is a regression from kde 3.5 The windowlist is what I'm missing the most, but I also liked the conventional "application launch menu" with the terminal sessions/bookmarks/quickbrowser added. I think the new kickoff style menu might work too, although it does take up a lot more real estate ( probably not a big issue if the menu steals the foreground ). Hello, Will this feature be available in the kde 4.3 beta, just released ? (In reply to comment #38) > Hello, > Will this feature be available in the kde 4.3 beta, just released ? not very soon based on 292 votes given so far. Anyway a "middle click" menu is being implemented. Someone is working on this task too... be patient people :-) (In reply to comment #40) > Anyway a "middle click" menu is being implemented. Someone is working on this > task too... be patient people :-) Hi, Unfortunately a `middle click' menu (I think you mean middle-mouse) is currently assigned to a different function. I would hope the same functionality would be kept on the right-mouse button. FineX > thanks for your answer... Actually, any click, left, middle, or right, is able to trigger the application menu on the desktop on kde 3 . I'm sure it's possible to have the same on kde 4 . Thanks to the developper who will hopefully implement this very expected feature . *** Bug 196092 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. *** *** Bug 197398 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. *** *** Bug 188821 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. *** *** Bug 201236 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. *** *** Bug 182723 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. *** also sorely wishing this regression from v3 will be fixed soon. constantly frustrated that i keep left-clicking on my desktop hoping for a menu. i would give this bug all 100 of my votes if i could. On Wed, 12 Aug 2009, ivan-kde@420.am wrote: > https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=163016 > > > > > > --- Comment #48 from <ivan-kde 420 am> 2009-08-12 01:09:06 --- > also sorely wishing this regression from v3 will be fixed soon. > > constantly frustrated that i keep left-clicking on my desktop hoping for a > menu. > > i would give this bug all 100 of my votes if i could. Agreed! wow, the comments for this entry are all over the place... anyways, now that my gsoc project is in trunk, you've got your menu. :) if the existing plugins don't do exactly what you want, come improve them or write your own; they're really quite simple. I'm probably not going to have time for writing plugins once school starts up again :( Thanks, Chani! You rule! ;^) Hi, Last week I installed kde 4.3 and really miss my customizable middle button!! Chani, you're saying "we've got our menu" and the status of this bug is RESOLVED, but how can I make it work now? Is it fixed in kde 4.3.1? @Connie: it will be available in KDE 4.4. THANKS for adding this feature to KDE4.4.3 (Pardus 2009.2) |