(*** This bug was imported into bugs.kde.org ***) Package: kppp Version: 200000531-mdk This may be more of a wish really but I seem to remember someone saying it was available with KDE 2. Connections to the internet using a dial up modem must be made manually. Diald can be used but this is cumbersome to say the least. When developing web content for example it is very nice to be able to bring up the browser and either connect or work offline. A utility call it Xdiald that could detect as diald does outgoing URL's and the like could prompt the user for their preffered action (including connect automatically for those who don't want to work offline). This would be advantageous in 2 ways. First it gives the user some control. For example using diald with Netscape. When Netscape starts it seems to to some kind of URL send (to detect its current on line status maybe ?). If there is no modem attached diald continues to try for some considerable time before deciding it has failed. From a user perspective Netscape appears to have hung because it will not procede until it has a success or fail from the URL send. Simply being able to press a Work Offline button would greatly help this situation. Secondly it would give the user some comfort feedback as to the progress of the dial up connection. With diald you know nothing about how the connection attempt is going until either something may or may not refresh on the display (no nice KDE red and green flashing lights) or diald re-dials ! Anyway if this is more of a wish than a bug I've been bashing away about this lack of functionality for ages and ages and nothing has changed ! Owen
*** Bug 45104 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
*** Bug 59087 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
*** Bug 32338 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Well, this has been around for THREE years now !!! Any chance of some movement on it ? Thanks, Owen
Subject: Re: No dial on demand On 30 Nov 2003 101355.471@compuserve.com wrote: > ------- Additional Comments From 101355.471@compuserve.com 2003-11-30 20:03 ------- > Well, this has been around for THREE years now !!! Time enough for you to have taught yourself the necessary C++ knowledge ;) > Any chance of some movement on it ? Thanks, Owen The little spare time I have left I mostly used for fixing bugs. If you have great demand for getting a new feature into KDE feel free to contract me or any other KDE developer. Harri.
Actually the auto dial feature of windows can be quite annoying if you have both a dialup and a ethernet network adaptor afair. Don't know about diald, but using raw pppd with the 'demand'/'idle' options should work. With the 'connect' script, a nice dialog could be shown (although I don't know how to get the right display number if one runs multible X sessions)
> Time enough for you to have taught yourself the necessary C++ knowledge ;) Ah, but about three years ago I made the switch to Java. Does KDE use any Java any where ? ;-) > but using raw pppd with the 'demand'/'idle' options should work Having tried with Red Hat 7, 8 & 9 and Mandrake 7, 8 & 9 I have never managed to get pppd working with demand. Idle fine, demand - no ! I am of course entirely open to the idea that I am doing it all wrong :-) > Actually the auto dial feature of windows can be quite annoying if you have > both a dialup and a ethernet network adaptor afair. .... > I don't know how to get the right display number if one runs multible X > sessions) I completely agree. Which is why it would be really good if this were in KDE ! Then the user would have complete control. Yes / No - I want to use this feature, Yes / No - I want to auto dial, Route to Host config etc., etc.. Windows basically produces the main Dial up box if the request has come from the local host, otherwise it just dials out (since the route to host may itself be a workstation who couldn't care less if someone else is dialling out). Of course, if your route to host is over an Ethernet card then no dial up box appears because Windows knows that the route doesn't involve establishing a dial up connection. Diald and pppd don't give this degree of control.
Unbelievable, still no progress on this one! KDE is GREAT but the lack of this feature is a KDE-killer.
I have to say you are right. I have just removed Linux from a system because the user could not get to grips with the current Linux solutions. Indeed, compared to Linux, setting up a network with a single dial up route to the Internet is a complete doddle in XP. So far all I have managed to do is tie my self in knots and resort to old manual connection methods ! Sad really.
Asked by e-mail to review my oustanding reports: As far as I am concerned this is still very much an issue.
Replaced owen.savill@marconicomms.com with 101355.471@compuserve.com due to bounces by reporter
Frankly, I would like to see a version of this feature related to Network useage. My Fedora Linux (FC1) box acts as a network gateway to a dial up modem for local machines and the only way they can get online now is if someone manually connects the Fedora box and leaves it connected all the time. It would be nice if KPPP could dial out and then disconnect if there was no activity from any machine or the local machine for a period of time.
What does it mean that this whishlist entry is still marked "UNCONFIRMED" four years after its submission?
that no one cares
Stephan Kulow - > that no one cares what about, you you mean, yes I can believe that :-) But looking at the above comments that is not the case with this issue. If you mean that you personally don't care then, as far as the rest of us are concerned, this issue is still open and we live in hope that it will eventually get addressed. > What does it mean that this whishlist entry is still marked "UNCONFIRMED" > four years after its submission? Presumably that no one has taken responsability for it ?! Has anyone suceeded in getting KPPP to work as a front end to diald or wvdial ? It's clutching at straws but at least it would be better than nothing. I still get frustrated at the bemused expressions and smirks on Window$ users when I have to manually dial out, or can only dial out automatically when I have no indication of the route to host !!!
*** This bug has been confirmed by popular vote. ***
KInternet (openSUSE) works perfectly using dial on demand.
Well, grrreeat for openSuSE!!
Unfortunately, kppp is not actively maintained anymore, it's last release was back in 2005. As far as I know kppp isn't even part of KDE4 so I'll close this bug as "Unmaintained".