Bug 511719 - Icon positions are no longer saved on multi-screen setups on logout and login
Summary: Icon positions are no longer saved on multi-screen setups on logout and login
Status: RESOLVED FIXED
Alias: None
Product: plasmashell
Classification: Plasma
Component: Desktop icons & Folder View widget (other bugs)
Version First Reported In: 6.5.80
Platform: Neon Linux
: NOR normal
Target Milestone: 1.0
Assignee: Plasma Bugs List
URL: https://invent.kde.org/plasma/plasma-...
Keywords: multiscreen, regression, usability
: 512583 (view as bug list)
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Blocks: 503500
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Reported: 2025-11-06 15:53 UTC by evgeniyharchenko.dev
Modified: 2025-12-31 00:15 UTC (History)
10 users (show)

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Version Fixed/Implemented In: 6.5.4
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Description evgeniyharchenko.dev 2025-11-06 15:53:06 UTC
SUMMARY
After this commit: https://invent.kde.org/plasma/plasma-workspace/-/commit/728f0a7da82a7ef11321cd1cc5f3f90da8df0c56 the icon positions are no longer saved; all icons jump to the secondary screen after restarting plasmashell. Tested on latest Unstable Edition with new user.

It feels like the left (secondary) screen is initialized much faster than the main one. Or maybe the main screen takes a long time to initialize, so plasmashell thinks there's only one screen while placing icons. But this is just a guess.

STEPS TO REPRODUCE
1. Put some icons on primary (right) screen.
2. Restart plasmashell (e.g. logout and login)

OBSERVED RESULT
All icons on secondary (left) screen

EXPECTED RESULT
All icons save their positions

SOFTWARE/OS VERSIONS
Operating System: KDE neon Unstable Edition
KDE Plasma Version: 6.5.80
KDE Frameworks Version: 6.20.0
Qt Version: 6.9.2
Kernel Version: 6.14.0-34-generic (64-bit)
Graphics Platform: Wayland
Processors: 8 × AMD Ryzen 3 3300X 4-Core Processor
Memory: 32 GiB of RAM (31.2 GiB usable)
Graphics Processor: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1660 SUPER

ADDITIONAL INFORMATION
Monitors: 2
 0: +*HDMI-0 1920/527x1080/296+1440+0  HDMI-0
 1: +DP-1 1440/360x900/225+0+110  DP-1
Comment 1 David Edmundson 2025-11-06 16:33:44 UTC
It sounds the same as this bug here, given you run latest builds can you reopen if you still have an issue after the next upgrade sync.

*** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of bug 511131 ***
Comment 2 Nate Graham 2025-11-06 16:43:52 UTC
It's not the same bug; he said in Bug 511131 that this issue was still present after applying the fix for it.
Comment 3 TraceyC 2025-11-19 17:43:11 UTC
Can you check to see if the the right hand screen got automatically set to folder view instead of desktop? Another user who had the same problem found this on their system.
Comment 4 evgeniyharchenko.dev 2025-11-27 09:01:17 UTC
(In reply to TraceyC from comment #3)
> folder view instead of desktop?

No, I don’t have that. Both of my screens keep the "Folder View" setting. Besides, I checked on the latest version of KDE neon Unstable Edition (as of 2025.11.19) and found that now the icon positions are almost always preserved after reboots, but they are never preserved after logout.
Comment 5 TraceyC 2025-12-01 17:18:41 UTC
Thanks for checking, and the additional detail. That's helpful. Those more knowledgeable about this will have to look further into this.
Comment 6 TraceyC 2025-12-05 00:36:52 UTC
*** Bug 512583 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 7 Asteroid 2025-12-06 15:08:17 UTC
Hi, I'm from the original bug 511131 and finally updated to see if it works for me. I indeed get this new bug. I can place my icons on either display, but when starting a new session, the icons on the second display move to the space they can fill on the first. My placement of them on the first display is saved properly though. 

Operating System: EndeavourOS 
KDE Plasma Version: 6.5.3
KDE Frameworks Version: 6.20.0
Qt Version: 6.10.1
Kernel Version: 6.12.60-1-lts (64-bit)
Graphics Platform: X11
Processors: 16 × AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D 8-Core Processor
Memory: 69 GB of RAM (66.6 GB usable)                   -- This should read as 64 GB of RAM. It's just another one of the numerous bugs KDE has.
Graphics Processor: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Ti
Manufacturer: Micro-Star International Co., Ltd.
Product Name: MS-7E12
System Version: 1.0
Comment 8 Nate Graham 2025-12-06 18:21:42 UTC
Can affected people try again with Plasma 6.5.4 once it's released in 3 days? It contains a change that hopefully should squash this bug for good.

Thanks!
Comment 9 evgeniyharchenko.dev 2025-12-09 11:41:00 UTC
I tested it on the latest version of KDE Neon Unstable Edition from 07.12.2025, and the situation there seems to have improved. Immediately after the session loads, all the icons are still on the left (secondary) screen, but literally a second later they jump back to their proper places and everything becomes as it should be. However, I think it’s worth waiting for feedback from other users.
Comment 10 Bug Janitor Service 2025-12-24 03:46:31 UTC
🐛🧹 ⚠️ This bug has been in NEEDSINFO status with no change for at least 15 days. Please provide the requested information, then set the bug status to REPORTED. If there is no change for at least 30 days, it will be automatically closed as RESOLVED WORKSFORME.

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Comment 11 TraceyC 2025-12-28 02:39:08 UTC
Setting this back to NEEDSINFO since we're still waiting on feedback from other users.
Comment 12 Asteroid 2025-12-28 17:33:08 UTC
(In reply to Nate Graham from comment #8)
> Can affected people try again with Plasma 6.5.4 once it's released in 3
> days? It contains a change that hopefully should squash this bug for good.
> 
> Thanks!

Sorry for taking so long. I don't update my system often because I need things stable as often as possible.
Anyway, I tested it and it works now. Icons save their positions on both displays as they should, including after relogin in and rebooting.

Operating System: EndeavourOS 
KDE Plasma Version: 6.5.4
KDE Frameworks Version: 6.21.0
Qt Version: 6.10.1
Kernel Version: 6.12.63-1-lts (64-bit)
Graphics Platform: X11
Processors: 16 × AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D 8-Core Processor
Memory: 69 GB of RAM (66.6 GB usable)
Graphics Processor: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Ti
Manufacturer: Micro-Star International Co., Ltd.
Product Name: MS-7E12
System Version: 1.0
Comment 13 evgeniyharchenko.dev 2025-12-28 18:13:47 UTC
> Anyway, I tested it and it works now. Icons save their positions on both
> displays as they should, including after relogin in and rebooting.

And do you have a one-second jump in icons?
Comment 14 Asteroid 2025-12-28 18:40:46 UTC
(In reply to evgeniyharchenko.dev from comment #13)
> And do you have a one-second jump in icons?

Yup, just like you described; all the icons start on the left screen and then once the panel loads, the ones that are supposed to be on the right go there.
Comment 15 TraceyC 2025-12-31 00:15:04 UTC
It sounds like the original bug is fixed - the icons do go where they are supposed to
The delay before they move may be the result of behind-the-scenes calculations happening that need to complete before the icons are moved. I'll close this report out for now.

If you feel the delay is a bug, please open a new report and reference this one. Thanks!