Bug 448870 - Allow disabling tooltips
Summary: Allow disabling tooltips
Status: RESOLVED UPSTREAM
Alias: None
Product: Falkon
Classification: Applications
Component: general (show other bugs)
Version: unspecified
Platform: openSUSE Linux
: NOR wishlist
Target Milestone: ---
Assignee: David Rosca
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Reported: 2022-01-21 08:35 UTC by info
Modified: 2023-05-08 18:06 UTC (History)
3 users (show)

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a tooltip in krusader that should not be, because disabled in configs. (182.87 KB, image/jpeg)
2022-01-21 08:39 UTC, info
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Description info 2022-01-21 08:35:22 UTC
STEPS TO REPRODUCE
1. disable all tootltips in all  config
2.  use falkon or krusader or very many programs
3.

OBSERVED RESULT
 tootltips still there

EXPECTED RESULT
no more tooltips like 15.1 and before (i think i remember)

SOFTWARE/OS VERSIONS
Windows: 
macOS: 
Linux/KDE Plasma: Opensuse Leap 15.3
(available in About System)
KDE Plasma Version: 5.18.6
KDE Frameworks Version: 5.76.0
Qt Version: 5.12.7

ADDITIONAL INFORMATION
there used to be many more tooltips setting options.
These were shrunk and still worked, if I remember correctly, until opensuse leap15.1.
Apparently then someone saw that much more config is switched with much less buttons than before and took away some setting effects.
the old switches are still missing in the config options of course.

Here is an ancient overview of switches that once existed, but far before opensuse leap 15.1, but these seem to be left unchecked somewhere.
Translated from german with deepl:

... of the WindowButtons: SystemSettings/AppearancePicture and Behaviour of the desktop/AppearancePicture of the desktop/WindowDecoration/Buttons: "Show short info for window buttons" deactivate

... in the control bar: SystemSettings/Appearance and behavior of the workspace/Behavior of the workspace/Workspace: deactivate "Show information
Comment 1 info 2022-01-21 08:39:59 UTC
Created attachment 145694 [details]
a tooltip in krusader that should not be, because disabled in configs.
Comment 2 Nate Graham 2022-01-23 05:39:14 UTC
You would need to file individual bugs on each affected app. It's up to the apps whether or not they will respect those settings.

Let's use this one for Falkon.
Comment 3 info 2022-01-31 18:15:06 UTC
Please make tooltips KDE-wide disableable again, independent of program 
settings. You can still use them if they are available and desired.
The general not enable the tooltips turn off is completely unnecessary!
So additional option "Switch off tooltips in all programmes and KDE".
Comment 4 Nate Graham 2023-05-08 16:30:36 UTC
There is some confusion here, from myself as well. I recently learned that the option in question is not in fact a global option, and only affects Plasma panel tooltips. It's definitely not clear.

The current plan is to delete the option entirely, but we might end up being convinced to instead simply move it into the Panel settings window to make it clear that it's a Panel-specific setting.

There is no chance we'll actually make it a global setting that applies to all tooltips as such a thing would be practically impossible end end up being a "broken promise" setting; see https://community.kde.org/Get_Involved/Design/Lessons_Learned#%22Broken_promise%22_global_options.
Comment 5 Juraj 2023-05-08 18:06:33 UTC
Hello,

In my opinion this kind of an option should be located in the toolkit itself (Qt) or in some of its platform modules or styles (eg. kvantum).

The initial bug report implies it has some history with Falkon, while Falkon never had such an option.

Adding this kind of option to Falkon would imply high initial cost to implement it and high maintenance cost over time. (by cost I mean time and effort)

Due to this, I am closing this bug report.

Best regards,
Juraj