Bug 339729 - Wishlist Manual sorting of files
Summary: Wishlist Manual sorting of files
Status: REPORTED
Alias: None
Product: dolphin
Classification: Applications
Component: general (other bugs)
Version First Reported In: 4.14.0
Platform: Arch Linux Linux
: NOR wishlist
Target Milestone: ---
Assignee: Dolphin Bug Assignee
URL:
Keywords:
: 508378 (view as bug list)
Depends on:
Blocks:
 
Reported: 2014-10-06 17:29 UTC by Nick Stefanov
Modified: 2026-01-02 15:02 UTC (History)
4 users (show)

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2014-10-06 18:47 UTC, Nick Stefanov
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Description Nick Stefanov 2014-10-06 17:29:32 UTC
Hello, I love dolphin, but I miss the manually drag&drop sorting feature. It would be great to have such an option. Thank you!

Reproducible: Always



Expected Results:  
I try to drag a folder or item, but with no success.
Comment 1 Nick Stefanov 2014-10-06 17:34:26 UTC
*** Bug 339730 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 2 Emmanuel Pescosta 2014-10-06 18:20:50 UTC
Thanks for the feature request!

With "Manual sorting of files" you mean no sorting at all, right?
Reordering the items by dragging them around, like in the Places Panel?

I have some concerns:
* Where should we save the ordering/position of the items? Maybe in the ".directory" file? (This will blow up the directory file immensely esp. when you deal with a huge number of items)
* How many Dolphin users will make use of this feature?
* A lot of new code is needed to implement it properly - keep in mind that we are only a small team of volunteers.

What is the real benefit of such a feature?
Why you don't like the automatic sorting by different roles (name, size, ...)?
Comment 3 Nick Stefanov 2014-10-06 18:47:55 UTC
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 Hello, thank you for answering me. I don't mind to make your work any harder. If it is possible it would be nice. If not... I can live with it. 

Do you have use a XP machine in the past? It's explorer worked like a charm and don't mess anything. It is great for work with huge numbers of files not 
 
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 conversely. For example If we use manual sorting and extract some files in a folder with huge number of files/folders, the extracted files would go at the end of all files, the last in the line and they always are there and we always know where to find them. If we use "sort by name", it would be very, very difficult to find the extracted files especially if we don't know their names. I always work with many files directories and every other sorting than manually is a nightmare for me. Remember how many users have been concerned when Microsoft removed manually sorting. Unofficial patch has been released for solving thi problem.

Please excuse my poor english, so I'm try hard and do my best. Best wishes.
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От:  Emmanuel Pescosta  
Относно: [dolphin] [Bug 339729] Wishlist Manual sorting of files
До: mo78@abv.bg
Изпратено на: Понеделник, 2014, Октомври 6 21:20:50 EEST


 https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=339729 



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--- Comment #2 from Emmanuel Pescosta  emmanuelpescosta099@gmail.com > ---

Thanks for the feature request!



With "Manual sorting of files" you mean no sorting at all, right?

Reordering the items by dragging them around, like in the Places Panel?



I have some concerns:

* Where should we save the ordering/position of the items? Maybe in the

".directory" file? (This will blow up the directory file immensely esp. when

you deal with a huge number of items)

* How many Dolphin users will make use of this feature?

* A lot of new code is needed to implement it properly - keep in mind that we

are only a small team of volunteers.



What is the real benefit of such a feature?

Why you don't like the automatic sorting by different roles (name, size, ...)?
Comment 4 Christoph Feck 2014-10-06 20:08:21 UTC
So actually you do not want manual sorting but insertation of new files at the end, which has already been reported as bug 321821.
Comment 5 Christoph Feck 2014-10-24 23:59:47 UTC
If you can provide the information requested in comment #4, please add it.
Comment 6 Nick Stefanov 2014-10-25 00:19:02 UTC
No, I talk exactly for manual sorting. I want to rearrange folders and files manually by dragging, not by any criterion. For example - folders 1, 2 and 3. Drag folder 1 and put it between 2, 3 so we have - 2, 1, 3 and etc. And in addition when in such a mode, when files has been extracted, they should go at last, exactly like in Win XP.
Comment 7 Nick Stefanov 2014-10-25 00:20:50 UTC
Oh, I forgot it - I talk for folder view, not list or compact view.
Comment 8 Christoph Feck 2014-10-25 02:10:04 UTC
And you expect the manual sorting to be remembered for each folder? If yes, where? In a database outside that folder, or inside that folder? Smells like a WONTFIX.
Comment 9 Nick Stefanov 2014-10-25 09:54:20 UTC
Please, be clear. English is not my nativ language, for me is ghard to understand you. What you mean with WONTFIX. I'm not a programmer and I don't know where it would be remembered. Linux is powerfull OS and it is able many things that other OSes dont. How do they do it in XP? In 13 years ago?
Comment 10 Frank Reininghaus 2014-10-29 21:35:11 UTC
(In reply to Nick Stefanov from comment #9)
> What you mean with WONTFIX.

It means that we acknowledge that you would appreciate the feature, but that it will not be implemented (you said that you are OK with that in comment 3, by the way). Reasons were given already: it would require a huge effort to implement the feature properly, and it seems unclear why the feature would be useful at all. (If I am not mistaken, you have not provided any reason why the feature would be useful. The only justification that you gave is that Windows XP had this feature.) 

> How do they do it in XP? In 13 years ago?

Nobody said that it's impossible to implement this feature in Dolphin. It definitely is, but considering the limited resources that we have, it's not easy.

On the other hand, Windows has (and always had) so much more manpower that they can work a lot more on implementing features for their Explorer. And note that even they decided to drop the feature!
Comment 11 Nick Stefanov 2014-10-30 00:27:18 UTC
And exactly because they decided to drop that feature, I left Windows and use Arch. This is the only thimg that I miss...I have provided reasons in upper posts :)
Comment 12 Nick Stefanov 2014-10-30 11:49:50 UTC
Hello again. In my second post I wrote " I don't mind to make your work any harder." It is mistake because my poor english. It ment to be "I don't want to make your work any harder." Please excuse me for this misunderstood.
Comment 13 aristsakas 2026-01-02 15:02:55 UTC
*** Bug 508378 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***