Hello! Let me first say, i am really very sensitive about how fonts look in kde. The fact of the font outlook is essntial to the whole "beauty" of kde - more than wallpapers, widgets, etc.. When you install kde from fresh - it has a very beautiful font configuration. But - i dont know if that exists from long time ago or this problem appeared in saucy/trusty packages, i now cannot fix it back, and im reporting it as a bug. By default - if one looks under system settings / application appearance and clicks on a font tab, with freshi nstall except for "mono" font the others are chosen by default to use UBUNTU font. If i play around witheither different sizes or diferent fonts and click apply... there is no way back - if you click on the reset button - it changes those fotns to "Sans serif", and even if you manually change all back to "ubuntu" it doesnt look the same anymore. First of all the fotnd look very thin - so thin in fact, that they are sometimes unreadable...specially inside of firefox... not to mention more ugly. Then i went and in different forums i found a suggestion to delete /home/(my_name)/.fonts.conf, that that solves the problem. Un fortunately i dont have a fonts.conf, .fonts.conf, font.conf, .font.conf or any of those variants anywhewre on the computer. i mulitple times tried so search with dolphin's search AND with sudo dolphin+search. So i dont know where is the original "beautiful" font information hidden or how to get it back. Strange that the original font infrmation is NOT saved under the DEFAULTS button. I tried to play wiht different antialiasing options + higher dpi - but nothing gave me the desired results,... everytime at the end i finish with even worse results than before... i read this problem has to do sth with kde and gnome or maybe qt and gtk progrtams interacting with each other...also a i saw this problem had plagued kde since version 3 (by reading several old posts in forums about this error). Please help me how to get the beautiful fonts back to kde, without me again trying to install the whole kubuntu from scratch...and yes for a designer that i am it is important enough that i would do it.. it bothers me this much. i can of course ask in the forums ... but i filled this bug here mainly because of defaults... as far as bug is concerned just i wish that DEFAULTS button really recreates the default kde-from-scratch font configuration .. ps. i reported this problem to be in 4.11.60 which is part of project neon, which i use. it also happens under regular kde 4.11.2. Maybe this issue is also connected to project neon use? other than that im already using packages in trusty-proposed, so im getting the newest stuff.. thank you! Symon Reproducible: Always Steps to Reproduce: 1. under fresh install (or any other) in systemsettings/application appearance/fonts you change some fonts and click apply 2. log out log in or restart computer - go again to fonts under systemsettigns aplpication appearance and click DEFAULTS button and apply - then again log off log in or restart 3. the font configuraton becomes ugly, not thew way it should be, fotns become very thin (even wrong fonts), and in firefox unreadable, liek they are low resolution Actual Results: fonts were thin , ugly and wrong Expected Results: they should be EXACTLY THE SAME as they are when you install kde (in my case kubuntu) fromliove CD or usb. i think i said it all :) please forgive me if i wrote it in a bad tone - i cannot help but beeing sensitive to fonts - computers are fairmost used for READING..adn writing... the fonts are very important... i would say this brakes a very important part of the system. thank you for you kind help :) s.
Created attachment 83260 [details] look at he fonts in firefox :(
Created attachment 83261 [details] look at the fonts in firefox #2 :(
another problem which i noticed: Ubuntu Medium font is not rendered properly--instead of having a "medium boldness" it is same as regular excpet "sider" more space between characters... so trying ot use "medium" intead of "regular" foesnt make them better..just even more different...and if i use "bold" they become too fat and again unreadble...but in a different way... thank you nice day simon
hello! i also saw this behavriour by just VISITING the systemsettings / application appearance / fonts ...and not even changing anything, not even clicking apply or anything... even i f i just close systemsettings with pressing the X button...the fonts (or at least rendering) is changed... i see immediately in my widgets and in firefox and in k menu,... strange... :( symon
I get exactly the same thing: just visit system settings / application appearance / fonts and the fonts all change to be spindly and angular - basically not very nice. I am using a live (USB stick) version of Kubuntu 14.04 and the bug happens from a completely clean state. (I want to change to Kubuntu/KDE, but this is a deal-breaker for me if it can't be fixed.)
It looks like the problem is that the file ~/.config/fontconfig/fonts.conf is created, even without any "Apply" or "OK" being clicked in the GUI (system settings/ application appearance / Fonts). Furthermore, this file is made to include a wrong value for "hintstyle", namely "hintmedium". Deleting this file restores the correct system fonts, but if you visit the fontsettings again then the file is recreated and the problem comes back. A slightly more permanent workaround is to replace "hintmedium" in this file with "hintnone" as this doesn't get overwritten. However, this is obviously a bodge and not a proper fix, and it might not play well if you actually try to modify the font settings from the GUI. Other people have referred to parts of this problem, but I can't find a bug report that is exactly the same as this one, so I don't think this is an exact duplicate. These are similar/related: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=105797 (from 2005!) https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=245664 (~/.fonts.conf is the old version of ~/.config/fontconfig/fonts.conf) and it is also mentioned at the end of https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=304317 and in the forum post https://www.kubuntuforums.net/archive/index.php/t-55941.html
> file is made to include a wrong value for "hintstyle" But you can use System Settings to change that value, right? I do not understand why people insist on deleting the configuration file (and expecting the defaults to be how they like them), instead of changing the configuration to their needs.
(In reply to comment #7) > > file is made to include a wrong value for "hintstyle" > > But you can use System Settings to change that value, right? I do not > understand why people insist on deleting the configuration file (and > expecting the defaults to be how they like them), instead of changing the > configuration to their needs. You can get at the hintstyle setting via System Settings -> Application Appearance -> Fonts -> Configure (anti-aliasing). However, this Configure option is greyed out to start with, because "System Settings" is selected from the anti-aliasing drop-down menu to start with. To enable the configure option you have to select "Enabled" from the drop-down. So yes, you can change the option from the GUI, but it wasn't obvious to me (a first time user). It was visiting the "System Settings" GUI that caused the problem in the first place, so I don't think it's obvious that visiting this again would be the way to fix it, though you are right that it can be done and it would be a cleaner workaround to the original problem. To be clear, we are not complaining that the default is not to our personal taste. I don't expect defaults always to be how I like them, though as it happens the genuine default font setting looks absolutely fine to me, and is (presumably) "hintstyle=none". What happens is that you do something that should have no effect (look at your font settings) and the hintstyle changes under your feat to medium, for no obvious reason and with no obvious way to change it back (for one thing, because you don't know that it's the hintstyle changing that has caused the problem).
Can't reproduce in Plasma 5.2.
Simon, Alex, can you reproduce in Plasma?
I meant Plasma >= 5.2, sorry.
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