Bug 258634 - Print preview support in Konqueror 4.5+ (KHTML rendering engine)
Summary: Print preview support in Konqueror 4.5+ (KHTML rendering engine)
Status: CONFIRMED
Alias: None
Product: konqueror
Classification: Applications
Component: khtml printing (show other bugs)
Version: unspecified
Platform: Ubuntu Linux
: NOR wishlist
Target Milestone: ---
Assignee: Konqueror Developers
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Reported: 2010-12-03 01:44 UTC by Gérard Talbot (no longer involved)
Modified: 2012-01-23 17:02 UTC (History)
3 users (show)

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Description Gérard Talbot (no longer involved) 2010-12-03 01:44:11 UTC
Version:           unspecified (using KDE 4.5.4) 
OS:                Linux

There is no Print preview support in Konqueror 4.5.4. 

Konqueror 4.5.x is one of the rare (acid2 test compliant) visual web browser with print capabilities and withOUT a print preview feature. Every other mainstream browser (IE6+, Firefox 1+, Opera 8+, Safari 3+) have a print preview feature. Chrome 9.0 (to be released before end of 2010) is supposed/scheduled to have a print preview feature; their issue 173 indicates it is a Priority 2 and it has 18 duplicated bug reports.


I believe the product for this enhancement request should be kdeprint but I could be wrong here.

Reproducible: Always

Steps to Reproduce:
Open up the File menu drop-down list

Actual Results:  
Print preview command is not listed

Expected Results:  
Print preview command should be listed, just before Print... Ctrl+P

My system: Linux 2.6.35-23-generic-pae, i686 (32bits)

Application info: Konqueror version 4.5.4; Qt 4.7.0;

Other sources of related info:
Print preview in Konqueror 4.5.x
https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase/+question/129983

Print Preview within KDEPrint
http://forum.kde.org/brainstorm.php#idea84727_page1
75 people voted for this bug report and 0 voted against it.

regards, Gérard
Comment 1 Martin L ü c h e m 2011-01-06 14:03:50 UTC
Correct! 

But as the author of this brainstoming entrance - did somethin happen? - I have to say: This is not a konqueror problem, it is a KDE 4 problem. Print preview already worked in earlier versions of KDE, with KDE 4 it i gone! Not very funny! As a user I am NOT interested in technical explanations I would like to have a solution.

Regards, Martin
Comment 2 Gérard Talbot (no longer involved) 2011-01-06 19:21:29 UTC
Hello Martin L ü c h e m   :)

> This is not a konqueror problem, it is a KDE 4 problem.

Agreed. So, under which product should we file this bug then?
https://bugs.kde.org/describecomponents.cgi?product=
lists the product and each product has a short description:

Printer and Print Jobs Manager
https://bugs.kde.org/describecomponents.cgi?product=print-manager

kdeadmin's system-config-printer-kde tool
https://bugs.kde.org/describecomponents.cgi?product=system-config-printer-kde

seems to be the 2 best, most relevant products for this bug.  

> As a user I am NOT interested in technical explanations I would like to
have a solution.

As an user, I am interested in a solution: that is understandable. But we are required to create a good bug report. For many reasons, it is in the users' best objective interests to file this issue in a good bug report... namely to avoid misaddressing this bug or cause valuable developer time wasted but also for other side reasons.

regards, Gérard
Comment 3 Martin L ü c h e m 2011-01-06 21:34:06 UTC
Hi G´erard,

(the hell! Where are accents gone? Never change a running system! In the older 
Debian installation this worked perfect, now with Kubuntu, no more accents...)

thank you for supporting!

The main question is: which component is responsible for "print preview". At 
least, this should be clear. I remember someone telling me that now every 
application itself is responsible for activating "print preview" what I 
personally think is the main fault of this solution. But this is exactly what 
I described in the brainstorming section.

By the way, are we told to write a bug report for  e v e r y application in 
KDE that does not have print preview?

Regards, Martin



Am Donnerstag, 6. Januar 2011, um 19:21:30 schrieb Gérard Talbot:
> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=258634
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- Comment #2 from Gérard Talbot <browserbugs gtalbot org>  2011-01-06
> 19:21:29 --- Hello Martin L ü c h e m   :)
> 
> > This is not a konqueror problem, it is a KDE 4 problem.
> 
> Agreed. So, under which product should we file this bug then?
> https://bugs.kde.org/describecomponents.cgi?product=
> lists the product and each product has a short description:
> 
> Printer and Print Jobs Manager
> https://bugs.kde.org/describecomponents.cgi?product=print-manager
> 
> kdeadmin's system-config-printer-kde tool
> https://bugs.kde.org/describecomponents.cgi?product=system-config-printer-k
> de
> 
> seems to be the 2 best, most relevant products for this bug.
> 
> > As a user I am NOT interested in technical explanations I would like to
> 
> have a solution.
> 
> As an user, I am interested in a solution: that is understandable. But we
> are required to create a good bug report. For many reasons, it is in the
> users' best objective interests to file this issue in a good bug report...
> namely to avoid misaddressing this bug or cause valuable developer time
> wasted but also for other side reasons.
> 
> regards, Gérard
Comment 4 Gérard Talbot (no longer involved) 2011-01-22 19:32:56 UTC
FWIW,

"
Porting Applications from KDEPrint to Qt for 4.0 
(...)
Use KPrintPreview (in kdelibs/kutils) for print preview, rather than KPrinter::setPreviewOnly(true) or the KPrintDialog tick-box
"
http://techbase.kde.org/Projects/KDEPrint/KDE4

Gérard
Comment 5 Gérard Talbot (no longer involved) 2011-01-22 20:02:09 UTC
KPrintPreview Class Reference
http://api.kde.org/4.0-api/kdelibs-apidocs/kutils/html/classKPrintPreview.html

If you are familiar and at ease with C++ (I'm not!), then this bug should be certainly fixable.

regards, Gérard
Comment 6 Gérard Talbot (no longer involved) 2011-07-13 03:02:18 UTC
"
Current information 
KDE4 uses the Qt printing infrastructure for the application side and system-config-printer for the Print System Configuration.

(...)

it may take up to 2 years for KDE5 to emerge with the new printing features enabled.
"

Printing in KDE
http://community.kde.org/Printing

So, the C++ information (classes) which a KDE developer would use to fix this bug and many other printing bugs in KDE (e.g. print a frame, print a selection, select page margins, %tage scaling, etc) is at

Qt Reference Documentation (Qt 4.7)
http://doc.qt.nokia.com/latest/printing.html

Gérard
Comment 7 Gérard Talbot (no longer involved) 2011-07-13 03:06:51 UTC
Printing/Missing Features (in KDE 4.x)
2.6 Print Preview
http://community.kde.org/Printing/Missing_Features#Print_Preview
Comment 8 RSB 2011-07-14 10:59:53 UTC
*** This bug has been confirmed by popular vote. ***
Comment 9 Gérard Talbot (no longer involved) 2011-08-13 04:03:53 UTC
> Chrome 9.0 (to be released before end of 2010) is supposed/scheduled
> to have a print preview feature; their issue 173 indicates it is a Priority 2
> and it has 18 duplicated bug reports.

Chrome 13.0.782.112 has been released and it has a print preview feature.

This means that Konqueror 4.7.0 is the sole and only acid2-test compliant browser which does not have a print preview feature.

Gérard
Comment 10 Gérard Talbot (no longer involved) 2011-08-16 03:46:34 UTC
Printing/Missing Features (in KDE 4.x)
Print Preview 2.17
http://community.kde.org/Printing/Missing_Features#Print_Preview_2
Comment 11 Christopher Yeleighton 2012-01-19 19:16:44 UTC
If you tell Konqueror 4.7.2 to print, it shows a print preview first.
Comment 12 Christopher Yeleighton 2012-01-23 10:20:14 UTC
(In reply to comment #11)
> If you tell Konqueror 4.7.2 to print, it shows a print preview first.

That was in WebKit mode.  You can, however, print to PDF in KHTML mode and open the result in Konqueror, which is convenient enough.

Note that printing in WebKit mode is not a good idea because of Bug 292052.
Comment 13 Gérard Talbot (no longer involved) 2012-01-23 17:02:19 UTC
Christopher, 

I am modifying the summary to make that more clear.