Bug 22514 - Preferred language list
Summary: Preferred language list
Status: CONFIRMED
Alias: None
Product: konqueror
Classification: Applications
Component: general (show other bugs)
Version: unspecified
Platform: unspecified Other
: NOR wishlist
Target Milestone: ---
Assignee: Konqueror Developers
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Keywords:
: 19831 43435 47316 88292 93354 102395 225699 (view as bug list)
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Reported: 2001-03-16 09:03 UTC by Oswald Buddenhagen
Modified: 2010-06-06 19:29 UTC (History)
6 users (show)

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Description Milos Prudek 2001-03-16 08:51:31 UTC
(*** This bug was imported into bugs.kde.org ***)

Package: konqueror
Version: 2.1

Installed from RedHat 6.2 rpms.

When Konqueror accesses certain non-english websites (websites that use 
accented characters in their content) it displays the content without the 
accents.

The probable reason: certain webserver setups rely on client requesting 
particular language in http request. Netscape Navigator has 
Edit/Preferences/Navigator/Languages. If the list of languages contains [cs] 
then Netscape renders http://www.seznam.cz OK. If it does not contain [cs] 
it will render all characters without accents. Just like Konqueror.


-- 
Milos Prudek
Comment 1 Dirk Mueller 2001-03-16 11:56:05 UTC
On Fre 16 M=E4r 2001 Milos Prudek wrote:

> The probable reason: certain webserver setups rely on client requesting=
=20
> particular language in http request. Netscape Navigator has=20
> Edit/Preferences/Navigator/Languages. If the list of languages contains [=
cs]=20
> then Netscape renders http://www.seznam.cz OK. If it does not contain [cs=
]=20
> it will render all characters without accents. Just like Konqueror.

konqueror uses your global locale settings. your language setting "cs" ?


Dirk
Comment 2 Milos Prudek 2001-03-16 12:15:45 UTC
> > The probable reason: certain webserver setups rely on client requesting
> > particular language in http request. Netscape Navigator has
> > Edit/Preferences/Navigator/Languages. If the list of languages contains
> > [cs] then Netscape renders http://www.seznam.cz OK. If it does not
> > contain [cs] it will render all characters without accents. Just like
> > Konqueror.
>
> konqueror uses your global locale settings. your language setting "cs" ?

LANG=cs
LC_ALL=cs_CZ

Anything else?

-- 
Milos Prudek
Comment 3 David Faure 2001-03-16 12:37:28 UTC
On Friday 16 March 2001 12:15 Milos Prudek wrote:
> > > The probable reason: certain webserver setups rely on client requesting
> > > particular language in http request. Netscape Navigator has
> > > Edit/Preferences/Navigator/Languages. If the list of languages contains
> > > [cs] then Netscape renders http://www.seznam.cz OK. If it does not
> > > contain [cs] it will render all characters without accents. Just like
> > > Konqueror.
> >
> > konqueror uses your global locale settings. your language setting "cs" ?
> 
> LANG=cs
> LC_ALL=cs_CZ
> 
> Anything else?

Yes the control center setting.

-- 
David FAURE david@mandrakesoft.com faure@kde.org
http://perso.mandrakesoft.com/~david/ http://www.konqueror.org/
KDE Making The Future of Computing Available Today
Comment 4 Milos Prudek 2001-03-16 13:09:45 UTC
> > > > Edit/Preferences/Navigator/Languages. If the list of languages
> > > > contains [cs] then Netscape renders http://www.seznam.cz OK. If it
> > > > does not contain [cs] it will render all characters without accents.
> > > > Just like Konqueror.
> > >
> > > konqueror uses your global locale settings. your language setting "cs"
> > > ?
> >
> > LANG=cs
> > LC_ALL=cs_CZ
> >
> > Anything else?
>
> Yes the control center setting.

Personalisation/Country and Language:
Country: Czechia (cz)
Language: English US (c)
Charset: ISO8859-2

-- 
Milos Prudek
Comment 5 David Faure 2001-03-16 13:26:26 UTC
On Friday 16 March 2001 13:09 Milos Prudek wrote:
> > > > > Edit/Preferences/Navigator/Languages. If the list of languages
> > > > > contains [cs] then Netscape renders http://www.seznam.cz OK. If it
> > > > > does not contain [cs] it will render all characters without accents.
> > > > > Just like Konqueror.
> > > >
> > > > konqueror uses your global locale settings. your language setting "cs"
> > > > ?
> > >
> > > LANG=cs
> > > LC_ALL=cs_CZ
> > >
> > > Anything else?
> >
> > Yes the control center setting.
> 
> Language: English US (c)

Well that's why. You ask for English you get English ;-)

More seriously we should readd the configuration of the languages
(was in kfm) so that this is better configurable again (and so that you
can specify more than one language and not necessarily the same
as the desktop).

-- 
David FAURE david@mandrakesoft.com faure@kde.org
http://perso.mandrakesoft.com/~david/ http://www.konqueror.org/
KDE Making The Future of Computing Available Today
Comment 6 Dirk Mueller 2001-03-16 13:26:41 UTC
On Fre 16 M=E4r 2001 Milos Prudek wrote:

> Country: Czechia (cz)
> Language: English US (c)

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

here we are.=20


Dirk
Comment 7 Milos Prudek 2001-03-16 14:15:47 UTC
> Well that's why. You ask for English you get English ;-)
>
> More seriously we should readd the configuration of the languages
> (was in kfm) so that this is better configurable again (and so that you
> can specify more than one language and not necessarily the same
> as the desktop).

Precisely.

There are many users like me who want English user interface with local 
language display capability. My reasons include:

- I often find local language translations confusing
- I am accustomed to English language interface

Please consider enabling users to decouple the language setting in Control 
Center and acceptable charset in Konqueror.

These options should be coupled by default though because with wider 
adoption of KDE/*NIX users like me will become a minority.

-- 
Milos Prudek
Comment 8 Stephan Binner 2003-10-19 16:37:17 UTC
*** Bug 43435 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 9 Stephan Binner 2003-10-19 16:37:42 UTC
*** Bug 47316 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 10 Stephan Kulow 2004-05-17 21:17:54 UTC
Replaced prudek@nembv.cz with ossi@kde.org due to bounces by reporter
Comment 11 John Belmonte 2004-06-08 15:02:11 UTC
It's almost unbelievable that this bug hasn't been addressed, and barely has a vote.

We need to be able to choose a set of languages to accept, to order them according to preference, and have this reflected in the content negotiation headers of Konqueror's requests.  Every other browser has been doing this for years...
Comment 12 Stephan Binner 2004-11-16 20:23:08 UTC
*** Bug 93354 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 13 Maksim Orlovich 2005-03-24 21:06:37 UTC
*** Bug 102395 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 14 Maksim Orlovich 2005-03-24 21:07:13 UTC
*** Bug 19831 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 15 Thiago Macieira 2005-03-24 21:32:54 UTC
*** Bug 102395 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 16 Christian Hesse 2005-03-29 10:21:48 UTC
This whishlist item gets my votes. I prefer English applications but like to see websites in German if available.
Comment 17 Malte S. Stretz 2009-01-21 12:13:25 UTC
*** Bug 88292 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 18 Pino Toscano 2010-06-06 19:29:18 UTC
*** Bug 225699 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***