Bug 192821 - An option to turn off tooltips in folder view
Summary: An option to turn off tooltips in folder view
Status: RESOLVED FIXED
Alias: None
Product: plasma4
Classification: Unmaintained
Component: widget-folderview (show other bugs)
Version: unspecified
Platform: Gentoo Packages Linux
: NOR wishlist
Target Milestone: ---
Assignee: Bruno Bigras
URL:
Keywords:
: 196467 203305 214553 (view as bug list)
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Reported: 2009-05-15 20:51 UTC by Michal Ziabkowski
Modified: 2010-05-08 22:26 UTC (History)
18 users (show)

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Description Michal Ziabkowski 2009-05-15 20:51:22 UTC
Version:            (using KDE 4.2.85)
Compiler:          i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc 4.3.3 
OS:                Linux
Installed from:    Gentoo Packages

While the new folder view tooltips introduced in KDE 4.3 may be useful to some people, I personally find them a bit too intrusive. They disturb my workflow somewhat, when I'm trying to double-click a directory or file to open it. Somehow, the tooltips in Dolphin don't feel like that. Possibly, since they don't display the contents of the directory. All things considered, I think it would be beneficial to have a way of turning those tooltips off or at least changing the time-out. While it may be a matter of habit, the current behaviour is somewhat irksome.
Comment 1 Jonathan Thomas 2009-06-15 02:01:22 UTC
*** Bug 196467 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 2 Janet 2009-06-16 00:08:41 UTC
As my wish has been marked as duplicate of this I'm adding my wish here again:
It would be nice to be able to disable the preview tooltips for folders and the tooltips for application links on the desktop independently from each
other and independently for every folderview widget (including the folderview desktop). I'd expect to find this option in the configuration of each folderview widget/activity in its Display section.
Comment 3 FiNeX 2009-08-10 14:18:37 UTC
*** Bug 203305 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 4 Cruz Enrique 2009-08-19 19:50:38 UTC
*** This bug has been confirmed by popular vote. ***
Comment 5 Rich 2009-08-20 05:56:06 UTC
I have to agree, There should be a way to turn this feature off. 

Its quite annoying. Every update since i installed the 4.3 beta I have been looking for a way to disable this. Honestly I love 4.3 this is the only problem I have and a simple disable in the folderview settings would make 4.3 perfect.
Comment 6 dth 2009-08-25 02:40:39 UTC
Yes, please allow us to turn this off. I really find it quite annoying that I'm not given this option.
Comment 7 Vladimír Matěna 2009-08-29 14:53:51 UTC
It would be very nice to have this disabled. I have nfs share mounted with autofs and links pointing into this share from desktop. Every movement over those links makes autofs to mount the nfs and freezes whole plasma for the time needed to mount nfs.

This can be solved by making proper link to nfs device using a .desktop file, but this cannot point inside the share. .desktop files pointing to NFS have this previews disabled.
Comment 8 Totti 2009-09-05 16:35:04 UTC
I would like to agree with the earlier comments, please do let us disable this feature. It is extremely annoying!
Comment 9 Todd Partridge 2009-09-29 11:26:50 UTC
Find this blocking what I need to do at times too.  Big popup comes up, knows what it wants me to do.  Open said folder and popup has to be circumvented then wait a few to it going away.  A folder view option would be definitely appreciated.
Comment 10 keisangi 2009-10-02 15:42:09 UTC
it is annoying there's no options to turn it off.
such features should automatically come with options.
basicaly, i'm  not against such features, it might please some..
but customizability is the key, since one look/behavior can not please everyone.

tnx
Comment 11 Timo 2009-10-15 17:34:13 UTC
I posted a dirty little hack to turn off the popup for folders and links to folders here. As far as I can tell everything is working like I want it to:
No popups but the drag and drop and everything is working just fine, tooltips for files still appear.

http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=8109195&postcount=15

It's a lot more readable in the forum, but I don't want to force you to go there - so here is what I have done:

apt-get source kdebase

cd kdebase-4.3.2

vim apps/plasma/applets/folderview/iconview.cpp

(line 1297,8,9 changed to:)
//    if (!m_popupView || m_hoveredIndex != m_popupIndex) {
//        m_toolTipShowTimer.start(500, this);
//    }

(line 1339 changed, 1340 added:)
//type = IconView::FolderTip;
return;

mkdir kdebase
cd kdebase
cmake .. -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=`kde4-config --prefix`
make -j 2
sudo make install
Comment 12 Karim Ryde 2009-10-16 18:36:12 UTC
+1

The preview should be disabled by default, thx!
Comment 13 FiNeX 2009-11-15 17:14:11 UTC
*** Bug 214553 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 14 Scott Stubbs 2009-11-28 19:32:09 UTC
I was a little surprised that there wasn't an option to turn it off. My issue is the same, that it gets in the way when I want to double click on a folder. So a solution that would prevent that from happening (disabling isn't necessary) is all I want, like perhaps an adjustable amount of time that is needed to expire with the mouse hovering over the icon before it will open the FolderTip.
Comment 15 Timo 2009-11-29 10:47:29 UTC
Actually fixing the position to not overlap the icon itself would be sufficient:

Regular tooltips are adjacent to the icons boundaries.
Folder view popup has its corner in the middle of the icon, overlapping it.

Overlapping an interactive GUI element with another interactive one is just BAD design, imho.
Comment 16 Todd Partridge 2009-11-29 11:04:01 UTC
I, personally, don't have much use for this but can see the reason why some people could find it useful.  I'd been thinking that to keep this un-obstructive that either:

1) Allow an option to turn it off.
2) Create a secondary trigger mechanism that will enable it (possibly middle-click on the mouse button?).
Comment 17 Harsh J 2009-12-08 18:44:44 UTC
bbigras worked on a patch not long ago for the same: http://reviewboard.kde.org/r/2176/diff/

Appears to be discarded at the moment for a better solution, so perhaps the #2 suggestion by Todd is the way to go?

Personally, I'd like a configuration option. A key (like middle click) would make it less intuitive for those who use it.
Comment 18 Bruno Bigras 2010-01-04 09:08:31 UTC
(In reply to comment #17)
> bbigras worked on a patch not long ago for the same:
> http://reviewboard.kde.org/r/2176/diff/
> 
> Appears to be discarded at the moment for a better solution, so perhaps the #2
> suggestion by Todd is the way to go?

My patch was discarded since we agreed at that time that it could be better if it would use an icon likes the new 'select' icon (which I barely had time to implement before the hard freeze).

I will work on it when the freeze is over.
Comment 19 hyper_ch 2010-01-21 23:05:53 UTC
Well, in KDE 4.4 RC 1 I can turn the previews of in Dolphin. However I love a classic icon-based desktop so on the desktop plasmas I just have one folder displayed "Desktop". On there, I still can't turn the preview popups of and it's really annoying.

I know where I have my stuff and hence I don't need previews.
Comment 20 BRULE Herman 2010-01-22 10:04:00 UTC
Same here too, I need it for the plasma
Comment 21 David Voigt 2010-03-25 20:19:34 UTC
I'd like to have an option to turn it off. It's really annoying and it disrupts the workflow. I registered this account just to vote for this bug.
Comment 22 Bruno Bigras 2010-03-25 23:31:57 UTC
(In reply to comment #21)
> I'd like to have an option to turn it off. It's really annoying and it disrupts
> the workflow. I registered this account just to vote for this bug.

I'm planning to do this for 4.5 [1]. I will add an icon to open the tooltip so it won't open automatically anymore.

By the way, thanks to everyone voting for bugs/features, it does help to motivate developers like me to spend a little bit of my limited free time.

[1] http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.5_Feature_Plan#kdebase-workspace
Comment 23 hyper_ch 2010-03-26 06:59:25 UTC
Hi Bruno

Thx for taking this into consideration. As said, while I find them annoying on my own computer (as I know where I store my things) I tend to think that when I have to use someone else's computer it may come in handy.

Adding an tooltip icon like you suggest seems to be the best solution for everyone. Those that want to see the inside, click the icon and that don't want to see, don't click it.

Thx :)
Comment 24 David Voigt 2010-03-26 08:56:40 UTC
(In reply to comment #22)
Thanks Bruno, I'm looking forward to version 4.5. And thanks for providing feedback to the reporters, it surely encourages to report more often and generally be more engaged in the process.
Comment 25 Fredrik Höglund 2010-05-08 22:26:33 UTC
SVN commit 1124317 by fredrik:

- Show regular tooltips for folders except when dragging icons.
- Add an action button in the icon overlay that opens the folder popup.
 
BUG: 192821
BUG: 212882


 M  +45 -14    actionoverlay.cpp  
 M  +8 -3      actionoverlay.h  
 M  +5 -0      asyncfiletester.cpp  
 M  +77 -73    iconview.cpp  
 M  +3 -4      iconview.h  


WebSVN link: http://websvn.kde.org/?view=rev&revision=1124317