Bug 187420 - Temperature widget: No Y-axis markers (to show the temp)
Summary: Temperature widget: No Y-axis markers (to show the temp)
Status: RESOLVED FIXED
Alias: None
Product: plasma4
Classification: Unmaintained
Component: widget-systemmonitor (show other bugs)
Version: unspecified
Platform: Ubuntu Unspecified
: NOR wishlist
Target Milestone: ---
Assignee: Plasma Bugs List
URL:
Keywords:
: 196199 (view as bug list)
Depends on:
Blocks:
 
Reported: 2009-03-17 17:03 UTC by Dotan Cohen
Modified: 2010-02-15 04:19 UTC (History)
5 users (show)

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Screenshot illustrating KDE 3 System Guard applet. (2.98 KB, image/png)
2009-03-17 17:05 UTC, Dotan Cohen
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Proposal for y-axis markers (11.29 KB, image/png)
2009-08-09 19:00 UTC, Dotan Cohen
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Example showing that the temperature cannot be determined by looking at the plasmoid. (21.64 KB, image/png)
2009-08-09 19:03 UTC, Dotan Cohen
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This image is the same as the previous image, but it shows the temp in a popup. (129.67 KB, image/png)
2009-08-11 12:42 UTC, Dotan Cohen
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Yet another proposal for the markers, updated for KDE 4.3 (17.73 KB, image/jpeg)
2009-08-17 15:55 UTC, Dotan Cohen
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Description Dotan Cohen 2009-03-17 17:03:51 UTC
Version:            (using KDE 4.2.1)
Installed from:    Ubuntu Packages

Please add a Y-axis to the KDE 4 temperature widget that will show the temperature of the graph. KDE 3 had this and the graph is pretty worthless without it. Thanks.
Comment 1 Dotan Cohen 2009-03-17 17:05:48 UTC
Created attachment 32205 [details]
Screenshot illustrating KDE 3 System Guard applet.

In this KDE 3 System Guard applet the user could configure the graph to show the Y-axis temperatures. This feature is missing from the KDE 4 temperature widget.
Comment 2 Dotan Cohen 2009-08-09 18:59:48 UTC
*** Bug 196199 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 3 Dotan Cohen 2009-08-09 19:00:40 UTC
Created attachment 36014 [details]
Proposal for y-axis markers
Comment 4 Dotan Cohen 2009-08-09 19:03:59 UTC
Created attachment 36015 [details]
Example showing that the temperature cannot be determined by looking at the plasmoid.

The current plasmoid with no markers is useless: the user cannot determine the temperature of the system by looking at the plasmoid. See attached examples in single image. By looking at those examples, can you tell what the system temperature is?
Comment 5 Dotan Cohen 2009-08-11 12:42:28 UTC
Created attachment 36069 [details]
This image is the same as the previous image, but it shows the temp in a popup.
Comment 6 Dotan Cohen 2009-08-17 15:55:53 UTC
Created attachment 36218 [details]
Yet another proposal for the markers, updated for KDE 4.3

This screenshot shows the current no-marker widget on the left, and two proposed fixes.
Comment 7 Petri Damstén 2009-09-08 13:55:26 UTC
System monitor configuration is going to remain simple but if you need more configuration options check if these help:
http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/Complex+Plotter?content=111400
http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/Analog+Meter?content=111651
Comment 8 Dotan Cohen 2009-10-13 15:24:26 UTC
Petri, while I understand your desire to keep the configuration simple, graphs are useless without a reference for the axii. As the Y Axis does not start at zero (and the plasmoid would be unwieldy if it did) the user need to know what the value of the horizontal lines are. Please reconsider implementing this issue. Thanks.
Comment 9 Nikos Chantziaras 2009-10-16 02:49:52 UTC
Use something else then instead of System Monitor. I agree it's useless for the sensors, which is why I don't use it in the first place (and most other people aren't using it either.)
Comment 10 Aaron J. Seigo 2009-10-16 03:47:36 UTC
@Petri: what about just putting the actual temperature at the center-bottom of the graph?

btw, i agree that just putting a scale there isn't overly helpful.

@Nikos: " most other people aren't using it either."

can you share with us how you are polling a representative sample of our users? it would be very handy to have that ability on demand.
Comment 11 Nikos Chantziaras 2009-10-16 03:58:59 UTC
I correct it to "most people I know aren't using it either." They use the various plasmoids instead.
Comment 12 Kevin Krammer 2009-10-16 09:02:28 UTC
Putting it at the horizontal center could be a bit problematic since it is not clear which of the samples it refers to.

It is probably the newest one, i.e. the one on the opposite side of the movement direction, but it could be the one from the center.

Btw, in case this is related to the applet for CPU load: I can't seem to make it display the different portions (user, sys, io) in different colors or at least haven't found the options for that yet.
Comment 13 Petri Damstén 2009-10-16 09:27:53 UTC
SVN commit 1035892 by pdamsten:

Show monitored value on top of the plotter.
CCBUG: 187420

 M  +25 -4     applet.cpp  
 M  +2 -0      applet.h  
 M  +3 -2      cpu.cpp  
 M  +3 -1      net.cpp  
 M  +3 -1      ram.cpp  
 M  +1 -0      temperature.cpp  


WebSVN link: http://websvn.kde.org/?view=rev&revision=1035892
Comment 14 Petri Damstén 2009-10-16 09:31:38 UTC
* It now shows monitored value at the center-bottom of the graph (temp, cpu, ram).
* Axis lines/values are shown when graph is big enough (consistent with other system monitor plotters) (commit 1035879)
Comment 15 Dotan Cohen 2009-10-16 18:20:39 UTC
> Axis lines/values are shown when graph is big enough

Thanks, Petri! Is "big enough" configurable, say, as per text size? Would a 70px width vertical panel (probably about 65 px for the plasmoid) be big enough?

Have a great weekend!
Comment 16 Petri Damstén 2009-10-17 16:38:25 UTC
Currently it's width > 250 and height > 150. It's been always like this for the cpu and net, somehow missed the temperature...
Comment 17 Dotan Cohen 2009-10-17 20:11:02 UTC
> Currently it's width > 250 and height > 150.

I see, thank you. Can those values be made configurable? I just cannot get the panel that wide yet I need this on the panel. Even if the user needs to edit a config file to lower those values, it would be greatly appreciated. You could even reduce the font size of the graphs when the plasmoid is below 250*150.

Thanks!
Comment 18 Dotan Cohen 2009-10-20 15:09:01 UTC
My request from the previous comment is now a separate bug:
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=211207

Thanks!
Comment 19 Soren Harward 2010-02-15 04:19:28 UTC
Some of us preferred the clean, no-labels look of the monitors.  Why are the labels not configurable?