Bug 167825 - plasma panel span across dual screens
Summary: plasma panel span across dual screens
Status: RESOLVED UNMAINTAINED
Alias: None
Product: plasma4
Classification: Plasma
Component: multiscreen (show other bugs)
Version: unspecified
Platform: unspecified Linux
: NOR wishlist
Target Milestone: ---
Assignee: Plasma Bugs List
URL:
Keywords:
: 169080 172572 184879 200040 247832 (view as bug list)
Depends on:
Blocks:
 
Reported: 2008-07-31 10:55 UTC by Jürgen Walter Gruber
Modified: 2018-06-08 20:21 UTC (History)
12 users (show)

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Screenshot of a Dual Screen Monitor (443.39 KB, image/png)
2009-02-15 10:32 UTC, eli
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Description Jürgen Walter Gruber 2008-07-31 10:55:10 UTC
Version:            (using KDE 4.1.0)
Installed from:    Unlisted Binary Package
Compiler:          gcc 4.3.1 
OS:                Linux

Hi, 

The new plasma panel has no option to make it span across both Xinerama or Twinview screens. I request kicker's behaviour, which could do it.
Comment 1 Kris Moore 2008-08-14 15:57:13 UTC
I second this request, using 4.1.0 here on FreeBSD, and it would be great if the panel could "stretch" across the entire screen again. 
Comment 2 Gael Beaudoin 2008-11-18 21:06:54 UTC
*** Bug 172572 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 3 Roderick Johnstone 2009-01-07 18:34:10 UTC
Yes please...me too.
Comment 4 Michael Johnson 2009-01-26 22:33:16 UTC
I think this is a very important feature.  Especially for those who have a laptop with an external monitor attached for dual-display.  
Say you have two widgets Digital Clock and System Tray on the external monitor's panel.  If I were to undock the laptop I suddenly lose those widgets with no way to recover them (that I know of).
Comment 5 Jürgen Walter Gruber 2009-01-26 22:53:13 UTC
Michael Johnson, 
I think this reason does not justify the current behaviour at all. It is a very important feature for dualhead-users to fully utilize their screens (that does include the panel). 

Even for those laptop-users, it would be feasible to log out and in again (or restarting X, if you're the xinit-type) rather than just saying no to this request. If you're undocking the laptop, you are going to change places anyway, aren't you? 

But how about requesting to making it optional, so both sides are satisfied?

It also might be more difficult to do than it appears to us humble users, as it seems that two screens seemingly are two different plasma containers (they have a cashew... uh... corner with plasma menu each). 

Greetings
Comment 6 eli 2009-02-15 10:32:06 UTC
Created attachment 31325 [details]
Screenshot of a Dual Screen Monitor

Please tell me that this doesn't look silly
Comment 7 Tom Fifield 2009-04-23 15:46:03 UTC
Adding my support for this feature. I think I'll have to downgrade to KDE3.5 until this is resolved. If someone can point me in the right direction, I may have time to look at code...
Comment 8 Médéric Boquien 2009-04-25 03:55:39 UTC
*** Bug 169080 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 9 Aaron Williams 2009-04-25 04:59:55 UTC
*** This bug has been confirmed by popular vote. ***
Comment 10 FiNeX 2009-05-01 13:43:10 UTC
It is possible to add a second panel on the second monitor. In this way you can put two separate taskbar which displays windows of the own screen... imho it is much better than 3.5.
Comment 11 eli 2009-05-01 15:02:57 UTC
(In reply to comment #10)
> It is possible to add a second panel on the second monitor. In this way you can
> put two separate taskbar which displays windows of the own screen... imho it is
> much better than 3.5.

Problem is that currently, it is impossile to position or resize plasmoids on that second panel which makes it an un worakable solution. So I can't agree that its better than 3.x.
Comment 12 eli 2009-05-01 15:23:46 UTC
Oh.. If I remember correctly with 3.x you could have multiple panels and resize the panel and position applets as desired. Much more flexible.
Comment 13 FiNeX 2009-05-01 15:33:41 UTC
you can resize the panel and position the applets on KDE 4 too... can you explain better what you mean? Thanks.
Comment 14 eli 2009-05-01 18:56:17 UTC
Panel Yes. Plasmoids No. And opening up a gazillion panels to get the same effect is resource intensive and silly.
Comment 15 Alex Dănilă 2009-06-19 17:06:12 UTC
Ah, I actually got used very well to this. Task manager and less important windows on the small laptop screen, serious work on the big screen in full, without a panel or anything else.
Comment 16 FiNeX 2009-08-09 02:41:21 UTC
*** Bug 184879 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 17 FiNeX 2009-08-09 02:42:00 UTC
*** Bug 200040 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 18 chapinjeff 2009-08-09 06:02:39 UTC
I used the 'place a second panel on the second monitor' work around for this bug. 

Since you cannot stack panels(bug https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=165792), I added one on the top of one of my screens, but not the other. I use this as a quick launch bar.

Now I cannot use the space on the top of the second monitor where the panel would be if I had one there. I simply *cannot* drag a window into that space. I can full screen an app and it will use that space though.

So... the two biggest questions I have are, when will KDE 4.x finally have all the features from 3.5 that they dumped, and whose big idea was it to push out something that was not even close to ready? 

Seems we stole a play from Microsoft's Vista playbook...
Comment 19 FiNeX 2010-08-15 11:37:33 UTC
*** Bug 247832 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 20 davidblunkett 2010-09-27 09:33:30 UTC
I'd add that separate containments for each screen has other daft consequences - for instance if I want desktop icons for my files (and I do) and the files take up more than one screen I'd like them to fill up screen 1 and then move onto screen 2.

Under the current arrangement they fill up screen 1 then start again with the same files and fill up screen 2.  If I arrange them alphabetically I get files A-N twice rather than A-N on screen 1 and O-Z on screen 2, how daft is that?
Comment 21 Karl 2010-10-06 20:52:01 UTC
I'm also frustrated by this problem.

I do appreciate the efforts - sure would be nice to see this polished.
Comment 22 davidblunkett 2011-08-11 07:39:55 UTC
I can confirm this is still a problem in kde 4.6.0

I found in kde4.6.0 that you can (in theory) turn off multiple monitor support (setup:display and monitor:multiple monitors).  In my install (suse 11.4) the tickboxes seem broken (master tick for "enable multiple monitor support" doesn't activate the "apply" button - the others do so some pratting around is required). However non of these options make any difference to the actual behaviour. Turning everything off makes not a jot of difference (although I'd expect one big desktop), turning off specific features (like enable multiple monitor placement support) makes no difference, windows still snap to the boundary, maximise to the boundary etc etc.

Ideally I'd like one desktop with the ability to let the desktop and taskbar span both monitors BUT I'd still like window placement, fullscreen and maximise to respect the boundary as it worked in kde 3.5.  The taskbar placement is a constant annoyance and setup with icons on the desktop is completely broken.
Comment 23 Nate Graham 2018-06-08 20:21:19 UTC
Hello!

This feature request was filed for KDE Plasma 4, which reached end-of-support status in August 2015. KDE Plasma 5's desktop shell has been almost completely rewritten for better performance and usability, so it is likely that this feature request is already implemented in Plasma 5, or is no longer applicable.

Accordingly, we hope you understand why we must close this feature request. If the requested feature is still desired but not implemented in KDE Plasma 5.12 or later, please feel free to open a new ticket in the "plasmashell" product after reading https://community.kde.org/Get_Involved/Bug_Reporting

If you would like to get involved in KDE's bug triaging effort so that future mass bug closes like this are less likely, please read https://community.kde.org/Get_Involved#Bug_Triaging

Thanks for your understanding!

Nate Graham