Bug 149464 - hide backup~ files by default
Summary: hide backup~ files by default
Status: RESOLVED WORKSFORME
Alias: None
Product: dolphin
Classification: Applications
Component: general (show other bugs)
Version: 16.12.2
Platform: Ubuntu Linux
: NOR wishlist
Target Milestone: ---
Assignee: Peter Penz
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Reported: 2007-09-02 06:08 UTC by k.t.
Modified: 2007-12-12 07:32 UTC (History)
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Description k.t. 2007-09-02 06:08:56 UTC
Version:            (using KDE KDE 3.5.6)
Installed from:    Ubuntu Packages

hide backup files (ending with "~") like dolphin hides hidden files and directories, but let user see them then s/he clicks on "show hidden files" (that's already in menu under "view")

showing backup files alongside the "real" files results in unnecessary clutter, think of the real world example, then you make a copy of your work (backup is a copy in a way) you don't want to let it be side by side with original thing (that is if copy was done for backup purposes) - you put it somewhere else instead/ away from view
Comment 1 Josh Berry 2007-12-11 06:24:48 UTC
I disagree -- IMO backup files are not, and should not be hidden files.

Hidden files are files which under normal circumstances most users won't care about -- they are used primarily by programs to maintain state (e.g. ".directory", .rc-files, and so on).  Backup files do not fall into that category, as they are files that normal users (that is, users who aren't trying to tweak the system) are much more likely to want to access.

I personally never use backup files, so if some program creates them I definitely want to see them so I can turn off that functionality in the offending program. ;)  I do not, however, want to see hidden files most of the time (if at all -- I usually work with those from a terminal).

If I could make a suggestion, a better way to implement this might be to make files ending in '~' have a special file type (or perhaps do something like Nautilus' emblems?), and allow users to filter their view based on that.  This is more powerful than just handling the one special case of backup files.
Comment 2 k.t. 2007-12-11 19:41:09 UTC
AFAIK nautilus does hide backup files with the same option it hides hidden
files - which leads to another pro argument - consistency among kde and
gnome ;-)

On 11 Dec 2007 05:24:49 -0000, Josh Berry <des@condordes.net> wrote:

> If I could make a suggestion, a better way to implement this might be to
> make files ending in '~' have a special file type (or perhaps do something
> like Nautilus' emblems?), and allow users to filter their view based on
> that.  This is more powerful than just handling the one special case of
> backup files.
>

AFAIK nautilus does hide backup files with the same option it hides hidden files - which leads to another pro argument - consistency among kde and gnome ;-)<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 11 Dec 2007 05:24:49 -0000, Josh Berry &lt;
<a href="mailto:des@condordes.net">des@condordes.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">If I could make a suggestion, a better way to implement this might be to make files ending in &#39;~&#39; have a special file type (or perhaps do something like Nautilus&#39; emblems?), and allow users to filter their view based on that. &nbsp;This is more powerful than just handling the one special case of backup files.
<br></blockquote></div><br>
Comment 3 k.t. 2007-12-11 21:17:53 UTC
uh, something weird happened in my response:
basically ignore all the text starting with "On 11 Dec 2007..."
Comment 4 Josh Berry 2007-12-11 21:24:59 UTC
And that's one more of the many reasons why GNOME isn't right for me. ;)  (Nothing against GNOME, I just don't like it.)

IIRC GNOME is the oddity in this case.  To the best of my knowledge, neither Windows nor Mac hide backup files (or their respective notions of backup files, anyway).

Besides, I'm not sure KDE should care what GNOME (or anyone else) does, as long as we find what works for us.
Comment 5 k.t. 2007-12-12 00:46:56 UTC
in that case I will mark this bug report as resolved and open a new one (wishlist) to add the ability to hide ~backup files in dolphin
Comment 6 k.t. 2007-12-12 01:12:03 UTC
the link to the new bug report that evolved from this one:
http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=153881
Comment 7 Peter Penz 2007-12-12 07:32:01 UTC
*** Bug 153881 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***