Version: (using KDE KDE 3.5.7) Installed from: SuSE RPMs The main window is 100% informative, I see points for sliders, I see values, but when I try to use the kmix via systray I am put in nowhere -- what volume is set? I don't know. How big the change in the volume was? I don't know. Please, use the same settings for the popup volume control as for full window.
Internal remark: bug 141184 and bug 145851 are pretty close to each other. One for panel applet, one for dock icon. If fixed, I'll probably do them at the same time.
Still applies to KDE4.0.0
I dont get what the wish here is, how is the main window more informative than the applet, except that in the main window there are dashes.
Created attachment 40024 [details] applet
Created attachment 40025 [details] main window
In short -- main window is more informative than the applet. However the difference can vary -- the report was posted _3_ years ago, so don't expect to see the same things as I did back there.
(In reply to comment #6) > In short -- main window is more informative than the applet. However the > difference can vary -- the report was posted _3_ years ago, so don't expect to > see the same things as I did back there. I'm aware of this, it might have been nice to have some screenshots from that time. Did this improve or is it still an issue? I think it's right that the main window shows more information (if it even does), as the applet is just for quick volume adjusting.
I think the report was informative enough. It is no point to attach a screenshot to every report. > the applet is just for quick volume adjusting. Still it is useful to know what the volume is -- not "somewhere in the scale". Besides, assuming Kmix uses reusable UI components, it is a matter of using the same volume control in applet (single) as in the main window (there, you have several of those).
(In reply to comment #8) > Still it is useful to know what the volume is -- not "somewhere in the scale". > Besides, assuming Kmix uses reusable UI components, it is a matter of using the > same volume control in applet (single) as in the main window (there, you have > several of those). So what would you suggest? To show the volume percentage somewhere in the applet? To give audio feedback? To show several mixers like in the main window? The information thing that appears if you hover over the applet could appear while you adjust volume, I think that would be nice. Confirming this wish. Do you agree to rename this wish to something like "kmix applet should show more information"?
> So what would you suggest? See the summary. > To show the volume percentage somewhere in the applet? Yes. Above or below the slider. > To give audio feedback? To show several mixers like in the main window? No. > Do you agree to rename this wish to something like "kmix applet should show > more information"? No. Because now it is 100% informative -- the wish is about adding points (ticks) and value of the volume. Nothing else. After change you propose it would be ambiguous.
>> So what would you suggest? > See the summary. What summary? >> To show the volume percentage somewhere in the applet? >Yes. Above or below the slider. But there is no percentage display in the main window. Neither in the current KMix (KDE4.4), nor in the screenshot. Where do you see that percentage number? I really don't understand this wish.
> What summary? Press ctrl+f. Type in "Bug 145851". Press enter. The text on the right of the found phrase is the summary of the report. > >> To show the volume percentage somewhere in the applet? > > > >Yes. Above or below the slider. > > But there is no percentage display in the main window. Neither in > the current KMix (KDE4.4), nor in the screenshot. Where do you see > that percentage number? The main window has only points, not the values. Nevertheless the quick popup "menu" should have it, and the main window should also have it. When you launch text based alsamixer it has points and values, and this program if I am not mistaken was written decades ago, and we are now in 2010 and I am explaining why it is useful to have points and value on the scale. Is this really that hard to understand, or even simply usability is rocket science? > I really don't understand this wish. You don't understand, or you don't want to "understand", because it is a difference? I will make a mockups, just out of curiosity.
Created attachment 49718 [details] main window (it's a mockup)
Created attachment 49719 [details] popup window (it's a mockup)
And historic note. Windows systray volume control has points and values.
So, you say in the bug report: "The main window is 100% informative, I see points for sliders, I see values," In comment #12 you say: "The main window has only points, not the values." I hope you now understand what is so confusing about your bug report.
Ah, now I understand. The original bug report was from KDE 3.5.7. That one actually did optionally show the volume as numbers. OK, I understand the rationale, but am personally not too interested in putting any development efforts in that. If anybody wants to do this, I will accept patches and gladly assist the efforts.
- Renamed the bug report to "Add volume (absolute / percentage) to Slider control (Main window/dock area Popup)". - Changed version number
Ok, so this is actually the same as Bug 170527. *** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of bug 170527 ***