Bug 278200

Summary: The digital clock's date options went down the drain
Product: [Unmaintained] plasma4 Reporter: aditsu <aditsu>
Component: widget-clockAssignee: Plasma Bugs List <plasma-bugs>
Status: RESOLVED UNMAINTAINED    
Severity: normal CC: ab4bd, altp, alx5000, annma, hessijames, kde-bugs, maris.kde, nate, stephan.diestelhorst, tekwyzrd, untitled.no4
Priority: NOR    
Version: 4.8.3   
Target Milestone: ---   
Platform: Gentoo Packages   
OS: Linux   
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Description aditsu 2011-07-21 13:47:28 UTC
Version:           unspecified (using Devel) 
OS:                Linux

In kde 4.6 I had two nice options for configuring the date display: "include the day of the week" and "include the year"; they were quite limited, but still very helpful, and are gone now.
Now I can only choose between compact, short, long and ISO date formats. Short and long formats are system-wide and not suitable for the clock in my case; the compact date doesn't seem to be configurable anywhere, and the ISO date is just a fixed format that I don't need (incidentally, I use the same format for the short date).
What I need is a CONFIGURABLE date format that should only be used by the clock. In particular, I want to format the date like this: "Thu 21 Jul". In kde 4.6 I could get "Thu, 21 Jul", now I can't.

Reproducible: Always

Steps to Reproduce:
Go to the digital clock settings


Expected Results:  
Options to configure the clock's date (not a system-wide date format)

I'm using kde 4.7 rc2
Comment 1 Christoph Feck 2011-07-30 19:56:08 UTC
*** Bug 278877 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 2 tekwyzrd 2011-08-07 00:41:27 UTC
I agree. Removing user customizations or options is a bad idea. This change, and the elimination of the clock font settings were bad ideas. Please give back the customization options for the clock.
Comment 3 G Cohen 2011-08-11 05:58:13 UTC
+1
Comment 4 Alexander Konstantinov 2011-08-17 08:10:45 UTC
*** This bug has been confirmed by popular vote. ***
Comment 5 Albert P. 2011-08-29 20:23:28 UTC
I agree that the system wide defaults for time formatting is really only suitable for other applications such as Kontact. For a clock, you just want a concise format detailing relatively local time.

Long format comes the closest to this, but is too verbose in my opinion. I would like to see another option added that allows a user-specified date format similar to the ones in the system settings that would only apply for the clock.

This would allow a user to enter in "SHORTWEEKDAY, dD SHORTMONTH" and replicate the functionality of KDE 4.6 while providing more flexibility, while not messing up other applications that depend on the verbosity (or lack thereof) of the other time formats in the system settings.
Comment 6 Albert P. 2011-08-29 20:26:02 UTC
Addendum:  By "Long format is too verbose", I mean the user really doesn't need the full weekday, full month, or even a year (they should really know what year it is..). Most users can infer those perfectly fine just with the short descriptions and save horizontal space on their panel.
Comment 7 aditsu 2011-08-30 02:49:59 UTC
Exactly, I 100% agree with Albert
Comment 8 Daniel Faust 2011-12-02 19:13:01 UTC
*** Bug 281135 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 9 Daniel Faust 2011-12-02 19:15:56 UTC
Would also obsolete bug 277003
and bug 284891 is the same thing concerning the time format.
Comment 10 Māris Nartišs 2012-11-26 08:54:34 UTC
I miss ability to have name of week day in a separate row. Looong time a go, it was possible to have format "WEEKDAY\nYYYY-MM-DD". Current approach with messing with system wide date representations doesn't accept \n and doesn't wrap long dates into two rows but just decreases font size. Having everything in a long 3px font text isn't usable :( 

I would also add my voice here for being able to customize clock's date separately from system wide settings. Configuration dialog could provide system setting versions as options.
Comment 11 George L. Emigh 2013-12-07 21:55:39 UTC
I'm using KDE 4.11.4

As long as your fixing the Date options, compact date should at least be the short date minus the year.

My short date is MM/DD/YY, but compact date is DD/MM

These options should all be customizable.

Thanks for your consideration.
Comment 12 Nate Graham 2018-06-08 18:29:10 UTC
Hello!

This bug report was filed for KDE Plasma 4, which reached end-of-support status in August 2015. KDE Plasma 5's desktop shell has been almost completely rewritten for better performance and usability, so it is likely that this bug has already been resolved in Plasma 5.

Accordingly, we hope you understand why we must close this bug report. If the issue described  here is still present in KDE Plasma 5.12 or later, please feel free to open a new ticket in the "plasmashell" product after reading https://community.kde.org/Get_Involved/Bug_Reporting

If you would like to get involved in KDE's bug triaging effort so that future mass bug closes like this are less likely, please read https://community.kde.org/Get_Involved#Bug_Triaging

Thanks for your understanding!

Nate Graham