| Summary: | Temperature widget: No Y-axis markers (to show the temp) | ||
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| Product: | [Unmaintained] plasma4 | Reporter: | Dotan Cohen <kde-2011.08> |
| Component: | widget-systemmonitor | Assignee: | Plasma Bugs List <plasma-bugs> |
| Status: | RESOLVED FIXED | ||
| Severity: | wishlist | CC: | aseigo, krammer, petri.damsten, realnc, stharward |
| Priority: | NOR | ||
| Version: | unspecified | ||
| Target Milestone: | --- | ||
| Platform: | Ubuntu | ||
| OS: | Unspecified | ||
| Latest Commit: | Version Fixed In: | ||
| Sentry Crash Report: | |||
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Screenshot illustrating KDE 3 System Guard applet.
Proposal for y-axis markers Example showing that the temperature cannot be determined by looking at the plasmoid. This image is the same as the previous image, but it shows the temp in a popup. Yet another proposal for the markers, updated for KDE 4.3 |
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Description
Dotan Cohen
2009-03-17 17:03:51 UTC
Created attachment 32205 [details]
Screenshot illustrating KDE 3 System Guard applet.
In this KDE 3 System Guard applet the user could configure the graph to show the Y-axis temperatures. This feature is missing from the KDE 4 temperature widget.
*** Bug 196199 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. *** Created attachment 36014 [details]
Proposal for y-axis markers
Created attachment 36015 [details]
Example showing that the temperature cannot be determined by looking at the plasmoid.
The current plasmoid with no markers is useless: the user cannot determine the temperature of the system by looking at the plasmoid. See attached examples in single image. By looking at those examples, can you tell what the system temperature is?
Created attachment 36069 [details]
This image is the same as the previous image, but it shows the temp in a popup.
Created attachment 36218 [details]
Yet another proposal for the markers, updated for KDE 4.3
This screenshot shows the current no-marker widget on the left, and two proposed fixes.
System monitor configuration is going to remain simple but if you need more configuration options check if these help: http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/Complex+Plotter?content=111400 http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/Analog+Meter?content=111651 Petri, while I understand your desire to keep the configuration simple, graphs are useless without a reference for the axii. As the Y Axis does not start at zero (and the plasmoid would be unwieldy if it did) the user need to know what the value of the horizontal lines are. Please reconsider implementing this issue. Thanks. Use something else then instead of System Monitor. I agree it's useless for the sensors, which is why I don't use it in the first place (and most other people aren't using it either.) @Petri: what about just putting the actual temperature at the center-bottom of the graph? btw, i agree that just putting a scale there isn't overly helpful. @Nikos: " most other people aren't using it either." can you share with us how you are polling a representative sample of our users? it would be very handy to have that ability on demand. I correct it to "most people I know aren't using it either." They use the various plasmoids instead. Putting it at the horizontal center could be a bit problematic since it is not clear which of the samples it refers to. It is probably the newest one, i.e. the one on the opposite side of the movement direction, but it could be the one from the center. Btw, in case this is related to the applet for CPU load: I can't seem to make it display the different portions (user, sys, io) in different colors or at least haven't found the options for that yet. SVN commit 1035892 by pdamsten: Show monitored value on top of the plotter. CCBUG: 187420 M +25 -4 applet.cpp M +2 -0 applet.h M +3 -2 cpu.cpp M +3 -1 net.cpp M +3 -1 ram.cpp M +1 -0 temperature.cpp WebSVN link: http://websvn.kde.org/?view=rev&revision=1035892 * It now shows monitored value at the center-bottom of the graph (temp, cpu, ram). * Axis lines/values are shown when graph is big enough (consistent with other system monitor plotters) (commit 1035879) > Axis lines/values are shown when graph is big enough
Thanks, Petri! Is "big enough" configurable, say, as per text size? Would a 70px width vertical panel (probably about 65 px for the plasmoid) be big enough?
Have a great weekend!
Currently it's width > 250 and height > 150. It's been always like this for the cpu and net, somehow missed the temperature... > Currently it's width > 250 and height > 150.
I see, thank you. Can those values be made configurable? I just cannot get the panel that wide yet I need this on the panel. Even if the user needs to edit a config file to lower those values, it would be greatly appreciated. You could even reduce the font size of the graphs when the plasmoid is below 250*150.
Thanks!
My request from the previous comment is now a separate bug: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=211207 Thanks! Some of us preferred the clean, no-labels look of the monitors. Why are the labels not configurable? |