Bug 113442

Summary: Simultaneous use of KPPP GPRS Internet and KMobileTools
Product: [Unmaintained] kppp Reporter: ExU <beapetrovicova>
Component: generalAssignee: Harri Porten <porten>
Status: RESOLVED WORKSFORME    
Severity: wishlist    
Priority: NOR    
Version First Reported In: unspecified   
Target Milestone: ---   
Platform: Compiled Sources   
OS: Linux   
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Description ExU 2005-09-27 16:14:10 UTC
Version:            (using KDE KDE 3.4.0)
Installed from:    Compiled From Sources
OS:                Linux

I am always connected to internet over 
my phone when using PC. However I can 
not use KMobileTools when using GPRS Net. 
 
(Other way around it is the same problem). 
 
It is not possible to use KPPP GPRS Internet 
together with KMobileTools 
(sending SMS or accesing addressbook). 
 
This works with M$ so it should be possible.
Comment 1 ExU 2005-09-27 16:16:52 UTC
Probably both KPPP and KMobileTools needs some 
improvement therefore I created bug for both products: 

BUG #113441
Comment 2 Katka Budska 2005-09-27 17:25:07 UTC
*** This bug has been confirmed by popular vote. ***
Comment 3 Thiago Macieira 2005-09-28 04:43:57 UTC
Re-unconfirming. Vote manipulation is not allowed. Please learn to play fair.
Comment 4 ExU 2005-09-28 12:57:24 UTC
Hi if I spent time and effort explaining my colleagues the problem 
(ALL of them ARE USING linux) and asked them to vote for the bug, 
I dont think that this was unfair practice. 

NOT TALKING ABOUT THE FACT THAT THIS IS SERIOUS FLAW IN THE DESIGN. 

THE TIME WHEN DEVICE WAS USED EXCLUSIVELY BY SINGLE APPLICATION 
IS OVER FOR TVENTY YEARS NOW, AND IT IS REALLY TIME TO ADDRESS IT.

PS: If I spent that time explaining the problem and asking for vote it 
was because I believe the problem is very serious and whole community
will benefit from it, otherwise I would consider it as a waste of my time.
Comment 5 ExU 2005-09-28 13:00:21 UTC
STAY USER UNEASY, STAY OBSCURE - STAY TRULY LINUX :)
Comment 6 Thiago Macieira 2005-09-28 13:16:28 UTC
Did I say we were not going to look into the problem? No, I just unconfirmed it because I am not convinced the 4 accounts that voted are from 4 different people (all 4 have suspiciously the very same votes).
Comment 7 ExU 2005-09-28 13:46:22 UTC
I will tell you one thing, this is the core of the problem,
this is why linux will never get broader acceptance.

You can do almost everything in linux, BUT there are these
little glitches, you can send sms from linux, and you can
use gprs, you can read addressbook, but not at the same time.

(it is just small example, unfortunatelly this happens often)
Comment 8 ExU 2005-09-28 13:52:48 UTC
I can garantee you that most of the people who use
mobile with computer for both sending sms and internet
already experienced the problem, 75% of them quit
using it, 20% dont know what is or dont have time for 
bugzilla; and the reminder? Why do I waste my time here?
Comment 9 ExU 2005-09-28 14:13:30 UTC
This is probably deep in linux kernel and part of
the unix heritage. Same pain is being experienced
by everyone who what to share device (soundservers)
for multiple purposes at the same time.

The application engineers are probably the only
people who can push on the driver/kernel guys to 
get over this SINGLE-DEVICE-SINGLE-TASK-NIGHTMARE :(

I am pretty sure, that you are aware that this 
works without any problems in bill's system :(
Comment 10 ExU 2005-09-28 14:15:58 UTC
/My excuse to everyone who become by accident spectator 
and victim of my conversation with Thiago Macieira/