Bug 38177 - Leave on server for N days
Summary: Leave on server for N days
Status: RESOLVED FIXED
Alias: None
Product: kmail
Classification: Applications
Component: general (show other bugs)
Version: 1.3.2
Platform: RedHat Enterprise Linux Linux
: NOR wishlist
Target Milestone: ---
Assignee: Don Sanders
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Reported: 2002-02-15 21:33 UTC by Steven P. Auerbach
Modified: 2009-12-06 16:58 UTC (History)
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Description Steven P. Auerbach 2002-02-15 21:23:22 UTC
(*** This bug was imported into bugs.kde.org ***)

Package:           kmail
Version:           1.3.2 (using KDE 2.2.2 -2)
Severity:          wishlist
Installed from:    Red Hat Linux 7.2
Compiler:          gcc version 2.96 20000731 (Red Hat Linux 7.1 2.96-98)
OS:                Linux (i686) release 2.4.7-10
OS/Compiler notes: 

My Windows Eudora mail client has the option
to leave mail on the server for N days where
N is a number the user can set. This is useful
to me for the following reason: I have a laptop
which I use when at home or traveling and
I would like to keep all my incoming messages
on both the laptop and my Linux machine.  I
could do this setting Eudora to leave
incoming mail onthe server for (say) 30 days
and doing the same for KMail. Then no 
matter which machine checked the mail first
all messages would be retrieved [provided
I check the mail more often than every 30
days from both machines]


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Comment 1 Ingo Kl 2002-02-16 20:35:27 UTC
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On Friday 15 February 2002 22:23 steven.p.auerbach@saic.com wrote:
> My Windows Eudora mail client has the option
> to leave mail on the server for N days where
> N is a number the user can set. This is useful
> to me for the following reason: I have a laptop
> which I use when at home or traveling and
> I would like to keep all my incoming messages
> on both the laptop and my Linux machine.  I
> could do this setting Eudora to leave
> incoming mail onthe server for (say) 30 days
> and doing the same for KMail. Then no
> matter which machine checked the mail first
> all messages would be retrieved [provided
> I check the mail more often than every 30
> days from both machines]

This is probably possible with the current developer version. This=20
version has POP filters with the help of which you should be able to=20
delete messages from the server which are older than 30 days.
But please note that leaving messages on the server only works if the=20
server supports the UIDL command. If the server doesn't support this=20
command you will get duplicate messages in KMail.

Regards
Ingo
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Comment 2 T Zachmann 2002-02-17 06:26:04 UTC
Hello 

>You _rock_ man! 
>
>Why didn't you say that when I first asked the question (the "Feature request" 
>thread)? :-)
>
>I'll have to wati 2 days to see if it works but I've got a new pop3-filter: 
>
><age in days> <is grater then> <2> Action: Delete mail from Server
>
>If it works like I think it will it's perfect!

I'm afraid but this should not work. If you choose not to delete mails
from server also the pop filter will leave the mails on the server they
are just not downloaded. So the space is still used on the server. Also
if you donloaded the mail it will not be filterd any more. Maybe I can
ad this feature if I have some spare time.

Thorsten
Comment 3 kroberts 2003-04-02 20:40:43 UTC
In my case, we have several email accounts of which several people access them
from a POP3 server. Unfortunately, I have to manually log onto the webmail
server to delete older emails. The Eudora 'Delete after N days' feature was a
plus for me in this respect.
Comment 4 Dave M 2003-10-02 18:30:43 UTC
Only because it has been so long... Is something planned for this?  A "delete 
from server after X days" feature would be great.

Thanks,

Dave
Comment 5 Kristian Eide 2003-10-02 22:49:27 UTC
I implemented support for this some weeks ago, and posted it to the mailing 
list. My original mail (with the patch) can be found here (it's against KMail 1.
5, so it will probably need some updating before it can be applied to the latest 
CVS version):

http://lists.kde.org/?l=kde-pim&m=105691856812903&w=2
Comment 6 Don Sanders 2003-10-08 08:00:11 UTC
Subject: Re:  Leave on server for N days

I had a quick look at this patch and liked what I saw. 

I certainly think this is a nice feature and should be included in 
KMail. KMail is currently in feature freeze and the earliest possible 
time for inclusion into the developmental version of KMail is January 
2004. I'll have another look at the patch then, and if I still like 
it I'll lobby the other core developers to include the patch/feature 
or some derivative of it into CVS.

Don.

Comment 7 jos poortvliet 2003-12-02 07:55:38 UTC
whould be really nice!!! its something I desperately miss...

now I simply dont delete the mails, and sometimes do it by hand, but sometimes I forget, and my account is full, so I dont recieve mails... :(
Comment 8 Dave M 2004-08-18 00:45:21 UTC
A little bit sad to see this isn't in KMail 1.7 still.  Any plans on this still?

Thanks,

Dave M
Comment 9 mhn 2004-11-06 18:38:01 UTC
Isn't this a duplicate of http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=49989?
Comment 10 Dave M 2005-02-01 21:25:13 UTC
No, especially since this one is older...  although the discussed wish is similar.

--Dave
Comment 11 Dave M 2005-03-01 04:57:18 UTC
Originally, I saw this feature on the list for KDE 3.4.  However, it is no longer on the KDE 3.4 feature list...  Will this feature be in the release of KMail 1.8?  I hope so, this is sort of a big one for me personally.  Any update (good or bad) would be very much appreciated.

Thanks,

Dave M
Comment 12 jos poortvliet 2005-03-17 09:31:35 UTC
it's not in KDE 3.4 (just checked). :(

well, let's wait for 3.5 :D
Comment 13 Rich Birch 2005-04-02 13:46:06 UTC
Patch committed last night to implement this. I'll wait for confirmations from people that it works before closing, but it works just fine for me
Comment 14 Gilles Schintgen 2005-04-02 14:01:12 UTC
On Saturday 02 April 2005 13:46, Rich Birch wrote:
> Patch committed last night to implement this. I'll wait for
> confirmations from people that it works before closing, but it works just
> fine for me

I haven't tested it, but thanks a lot for implementing this!

Cheers,
Gilles
Comment 15 Fikret Skrgic 2005-04-10 07:25:56 UTC
This problem is the reason I use Thunderbird. I would rather use Kmail, but I have no choice. I have to use Thunderbird. Thunderbird gives you the option of leaving mail on the server for as long as you do not delete it in your inbox. This is the most logical and natural way of doing this. I need to be able to access my messages from any computer through webmail. So, messages have to stay on the server. But, if I leave them on the server, I would have to delete them once in KMail and once again using the web interface. Too much work for such a lazy person like myself. At some point I got tired of all this deleting and switched to Thunderbird.

What surprises me, is that KMail has so many features (most of them I will never use, and for some of them I don't even know what their purpose is), but doesn't handle its primary task well, which is getting messages from a server. I can hardly imagine that somebody would want to keep every single message on the server. On the other hand, it is definitely imaginable that one would want to keep some messages on the server. So, people who want to either keep all messages on the server or delete all of them are hardly too many.

Why not do it the same way Thunderbird does it? Or, at least, why not to add another menu item next to the one which says "Delete" when one right-clicks a message, which would read "Delete on server"? That would be enough for me. It is probably not too hard to implement.
Comment 16 Gilles Schintgen 2005-04-10 11:54:01 UTC
On Sunday 10 April 2005 07:26, Fikret Skrgic wrote:
> This problem is the reason I use Thunderbird.

No, it's not ;-). That would be bug 31114. ("When deleting mail locally, 
delete on POP3 server, too.")
Comment 17 Rich Birch 2005-04-10 16:54:32 UTC
Fikret

I'll be starting work on that feature shortly. I can't say how long it 
might take as I haven't looked in to how much coding is needed yet, but 
I'll keep people informed when I get going on it. (I'll post to bug #31114)
Comment 18 Ingo Klöcker 2005-05-16 16:39:24 UTC
This wish has finally been implemented. Thanks Rich!
Comment 19 jos poortvliet 2005-05-16 17:19:21 UTC
thanx from me too! good work...
Comment 20 Rich Birch 2005-05-16 23:22:37 UTC
You're welcome. It was my pleasure :)

Rich
Comment 21 Dave M 2005-05-17 13:34:11 UTC
Really fantastic news... my thanks as well.  Excuse my ignorance here, but anywhere we can obtain a patch/diff/rpm so we can add this extremely useful feature into our current installations?

Thanks,

Dave M
Comment 22 jos poortvliet 2005-06-23 16:16:26 UTC
I think you have to wait for 3.5, or diff it yourself from the svn servers... or check out the svn commit log, and find and apply the code. but little chance it applies cleanly agains anything earlier than 3.4 i guess...