Version: (using KDE KDE 3.3.0) OS: Linux Recreate Actionlist: toolbar_filter_actions when running Anti-Spam Wizard It is not sensible to offer a feature that if deleted by mistake is gone forever. Manually adding the anti-spam buttons to the toolbar is not an option for unexperienced users.
The only way to delete the action list from the toolbar is IMHO deleting it via the Configure Toolbar dialog. If you _select_ the action list, a warning appears: "This is a dynamic list of actions. You can move it, but if you remove it you won't be able to re-add it." Sorry, if people are not able to understand this warning, they better don't use a computer (or avoid manipulating toolbars). It's the same as in: "Do you really want to remove all files? Y/N" - Where are all my files gone? That crazy machine is so stupid! Apart from that, KMail is using functionality from kdelibs in this place. So it doesn't make sense to file a report against KMail.
Am Sonntag, 12. September 2004 00:13 schrieb Andreas Gungl: > ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- > You reported the bug, or are watching the reporter. > > http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=89221 > > > > > ------- Additional Comments From a.gungl gmx de 2004-09-12 00:13 ------- > The only way to delete the action list from the toolbar is IMHO deleting it > via the Configure Toolbar dialog. If you _select_ the action list, a > warning appears: "This is a dynamic list of actions. You can move it, but > if you remove it you won't be able to re-add it." This warning is below th two lists and partly hidden. > Sorry, if people are not able to understand this warning, they better don't > use a computer (or avoid manipulating toolbars). It's the same as in: "Do > you really want to remove all files? Y/N" - Where are all my files gone? > That crazy machine is so stupid! There was no warning in my case. I think I dragged it by mistake. Tell me of another feature that cannot be brought back. This is not a file but a button-ish feature. You might get the difference when removing any other button.ish feature and can add it again. Sven
Am Sonntag, 12. September 2004 00:13 schrieb Andreas Gungl: > The only way to delete the action list from the toolbar is IMHO deleting it > via the Configure Toolbar dialog. If you _select_ the action list, a > warning appears: "This is a dynamic list of actions. You can move it, but > if you remove it you won't be able to re-add it." In what other place of KDE, does dragging mean deleting once and for always? Sven
Maybe my answer was not detailed enough. > Sorry, if people are not able to understand this warning, they better > don't use a computer (or avoid manipulating toolbars). It's the same as > in: "Do you really want to remove all files? Y/N" - Where are all my > files gone? That crazy machine is so stupid! So there is a warning, yet no confirmation dialogue and you can delete by dragging whcih you cannot do with files. There is no confirmation dialogue because toolbar-buttons are not supposed to be deleteable, i.e. they do not need a confirmation dialogue. However by introducing deletable buttons this common rule is broken without introducing the obvious for deleteable items: a confirmation dialogue. Why? Because if using manual filters for spam-handling there is no other way to put filtering-buttons in the toolbar but by this hack. Actually if you think about your statement one would simply have to add a text-message at the bottom of konqueror stating that deleted files are gone forever and scrap the confirmation dialogue, would that make sense to you? What do you think the responses at bugs.kde.org for that kind of wishlist-item for konqueror would be? wish: Please remove confirmation dialogue for deleting files and replace it by a text at the bottom of the file-list, stating that files once delted are gone forever. If people cannot read/understand that and delete files by mistake they should not use a computer (or avoid manipulating/dragging files). Please do not take it personally when people file bugs, as it is not meant that way. If this is not a kmail-issue please change the product of the bug. Sven
Status update: I couldn't produce any crashes using KMail from CVS HEAD whatever I did. So the remaining main problem is that removing the action list in the toolbar configuration dialog is possible at all.
*** Bug 89216 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
*** Bug 91293 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Not sure where to file this, it happens for me using kmail in kontact (KDE 3.3.0): When I open the filter options dialog and confirm, I get that nice toolbar. However, if I switch to any other part, e.g. the calender, and back to kmail, the toolbar is gone.
On Sonntag 17 Oktober 2004 21:40, Kevin Goeser wrote: > Not sure where to file this, it happens for me using kmail in > kontact (KDE 3.3.0): When I open the filter options dialog and confirm, I > get that nice toolbar. However, if I switch to any other part, e.g. the > calender, and back to kmail, the toolbar is gone. This will be fixed in KDE 3.3.2.
KDE 3.4 behaves very different in the handling of dynamic filter actions. So I'm closing this report. Please reopen if it's reproducible on KDE 3.4, though.
I removed the dynamically created filter buttons (SpamAssassin). Now I'm not able to add any filter action (even manually created filters) to the toolbar as a button. I can move them to the toolbar but they won't show up (kde-3.4.1, kmail 1.8.1, gentoo, gcc-3.3.5-20050130).