Bug 8206 - offline functionality
Summary: offline functionality
Status: RESOLVED UNMAINTAINED
Alias: None
Product: knode
Classification: Miscellaneous
Component: general (show other bugs)
Version: 0.2
Platform: unspecified Other
: NOR wishlist
Target Milestone: ---
Assignee: kdepim bugs
URL:
Keywords:
: 33784 35135 (view as bug list)
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Blocks:
 
Reported: 2000-08-12 10:18 UTC by Unknown
Modified: 2018-09-04 18:40 UTC (History)
9 users (show)

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Description Ut0p1a 2000-08-11 20:38:12 UTC
(*** This bug was imported into bugs.kde.org ***)

Package: knode
Version: 0.2 (KDE 1.92 Beta >= 20000720)
Severity: wishlist

I realy like knode and it think it's one of best news readers i have ever used.
Anyway i have a lack of one single feature...
i'm on dial-up so i can't spend hours surfing usenet and reading
all messages. So i'd like to download all newsgroup messages
with some params (eg. not larger when xxKb or mth.).
Again thanks for this great program.
Regards utopia
Comment 1 Christian Gebauer 2000-08-13 12:10:13 UTC
Hi

ut0p1a wrote:
> 
> Package: knode
> Version: 0.2 (KDE 1.92 Beta >= 20000720)
> Severity: wishlist
> 
> I realy like knode and it think it's one of best news readers i have ever used.
> Anyway i have a lack of one single feature...
> i'm on dial-up so i can't spend hours surfing usenet and reading
> all messages. So i'd like to download all newsgroup messages
> with some params (eg. not larger when xxKb or mth.).
> Again thanks for this great program.
> Regards utopia
We plan to add some offline functionality later on until then
we recommend to install a small local newsserver like leafnode
(http://www.leafnode.org/ a precompiled package should be include
in your distribution) its easy to install designed for dial-up
connections and works nice with any online reader (and KNode ;-)

Christian
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Comment 2 Stephan Binner 2002-09-14 21:22:13 UTC
*** Bug 35135 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 3 Andrea Aime 2002-09-22 10:47:31 UTC
Instead of adding the leafnode functionality 
inside knode you could add a leafnode configuration 
wizard, should be easier and offer better code 
reuse (that is, you can build on top of the 
leafnode hackers effort, get bug fixes and new 
features for free and the like...). Just an opinion, 
you surely know better what to do... :-) 
Comment 4 Tristan Miller 2003-10-26 13:18:05 UTC
Rather than duplicating the functionality of Leafnode, I also recommend simply incorporating a Leafnode configuration interface for KNode.  This will cut down on the amount of duplicated code and effort, and has the advantage of using an existing, proven, and feature-rich program to do the dirty work.
Comment 5 Stephan Kulow 2004-05-17 20:03:20 UTC
Replaced utopia@centras.lt with psychonaut@nothingisreal.com due to bounces by reporter
Comment 6 S. Burmeister 2004-05-18 13:56:20 UTC
> We plan to add some offline functionality later on

When is later on supposed to be? Four years? Is this bug worked on? 106 votes states  a clear interest in this feature that should be appreciated by the developers.
Comment 7 Volker Krause 2004-07-04 16:37:43 UTC
*** Bug 33784 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 8 S. Burmeister 2004-11-02 00:00:04 UTC
Still valid for 3.3.1. Four years and still counting!
Comment 9 S. Burmeister 2004-11-02 00:00:17 UTC
Still valid for 3.3.1. Four years and still counting!
Comment 10 Martin Fabian Hohenberg 2005-03-18 14:23:09 UTC
Still valid for 3.4.0 ...
Comment 11 Martin Fabian Hohenberg 2005-10-01 11:30:13 UTC
Still valid for 3.4.91
Comment 12 Piotr Szymański 2005-10-02 01:09:59 UTC
Maybe someone could make this a killer KDE4 feature :) I can see the headlines, 6 year anniversary of the bug report :)
Comment 13 Martin Fabian Hohenberg 2005-10-28 19:49:10 UTC
Instead of just ignoring this bug, I think developers should set the WORKSFORME flag so I see that I do not have to wait any longer. This is a general problem I have with KDEPIM applications - for further reference, see bug #1015 (KMail templates) or #32400 (eMail sorting) - This stuff gets reported, wanted frenentically, sometimes there are already patches avalible, but the functionality just does not get imported.

Why do developers just not say they give a shit about users and close those old bugs?

Please do not start the "well, it's open source, you can learn C++, or use another product"-stuff ... I will, and effectively, this behaviour and those prayer-like chantations will drive me away from KDE. Not because it is a bad DE, but because key functionality is not included in its native applications, while it is avalible for Gnome. I know that I can run Gnome-Apps in KDE, but why should I (hypothetically speaking), if more than 3/4 of my regular applications are made for Gnome? 

This is very frustrating indeed.
Comment 14 Piotr Szymański 2005-10-28 21:21:14 UTC
> Why do developers just not say they give a shit about users and close those
> old bugs?

Mostly they care, its just that the kde 3.5 release shedule was chosen without 
enough thought given. Maaaaaaaaany features, including ones sonsored by 
google's soc, didnt make it to kde 3.5, just because it was feature closed 
too soon. Well its sad that the last KDE3 release will be so much crippled of 
the features it could have had.
Comment 15 Michael Brade 2005-10-30 00:34:30 UTC
gee, Martin, this IS open source and yes, it is the reason actually! The developers care a lot about the users, otherwise we would not do what we do.

We have a big problem though and that is *lack of developers*, and lack of time. There's not much we can do about that, besides waiting for those new fellows joining us. Especially in KDE PIM.

(not that I would be a knode developer, but I have the same problem with KNotes and kdelibs stuff I maintain, so I speak from my own experience)
Comment 16 greatbunzinni 2006-04-14 13:15:38 UTC
It seems that this wishlist item has now entered it's 6th year. It seems that the problem isn't the 3.5 release schedule because right now we are at 3.5.2, two full bugfix releases after 3.5.0. 

What strikes me as odd is that this feature seems to be as trivial as it gets. Every newsreader out there has this functionality since the early 90s. What gives?

It's really sad that a newsreader with such a potential doesn't fulfull it's promises.
Comment 17 Thiago Macieira 2006-04-16 15:43:22 UTC
This isn't a bugfix. If someone wants to code this, submit the patch. We'll be happy to apply it for KDE 4.0.

Aside from that, please wait patiently and don't whine. This is not a trivial feature.
Comment 18 Vito De Tullio 2009-11-22 11:43:41 UTC
Any news for the offline functionality?
Comment 19 Richard Llom 2013-05-25 19:46:45 UTC
(In reply to comment #18)
> Any news for the offline functionality?
Not *yet*! ;-)

Actually, is there currently (as of 2013) an active dev for Knode?
Comment 20 Christophe Marin 2013-05-25 21:38:43 UTC
No, he's not active since... ages
Comment 21 Chao Feng 2015-01-02 12:16:08 UTC
Knode is not maintained anymore. Kmail has most of its function and has off-line support.
Comment 22 Richard Llom 2015-01-02 13:49:25 UTC
How can you read Newsgroups with Kmail?

2015-01-02 12:16 GMT+00:00 Chao Feng <chaofeng111@gmail.com>:
> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8206
>
> Chao Feng <chaofeng111@gmail.com> changed:
>
>            What    |Removed                     |Added
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>              Status|CONFIRMED                   |RESOLVED
>                  CC|                            |chaofeng111@gmail.com
>          Resolution|---                         |UNMAINTAINED
>
> --- Comment #21 from Chao Feng <chaofeng111@gmail.com> ---
> Knode is not maintained anymore. Kmail has most of its function and has
> off-line support.
>
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Comment 23 Tristan Miller 2015-01-02 15:38:15 UTC
As the (adoptee) reporter, I must concur.  How does telling people to use KMail instead of KNode help when KMail doesn't support NNTP?  (Bug 53593 addressed KMail/KNode integration, and the result was to keep the two programs separate but aggregate them into into Kontact.)
Comment 24 Rex Dieter 2015-01-04 01:20:48 UTC
comment #8 does not appear to be indicative of any kde.org official position.  re-opening.

Chao, if you feel otherwise, can you please explain more?
Comment 25 Rex Dieter 2015-01-04 01:21:03 UTC
comment #21 does not appear to be indicative of any kde.org official position.  re-opening.

Chao, if you feel otherwise, can you please explain more?
Comment 26 Chao Feng 2015-01-05 05:07:45 UTC
Knode code is removed from kdepim git repo. The bug should change status to unmaintained to reflect the fact. 

If anyone want to maintain it, please step up.
Comment 27 Tristan Miller 2015-01-05 10:07:51 UTC
If KNode really is unmaintained, then I suppose it's fine to mark all the KNode bugs as such.  But please don't tell people to use KMail instead unless KNode's core functionality (i.e., the ability to read and post to newsgroups via NNTP) really has been integrated into KMail.
Comment 28 Richard Llom 2015-01-06 00:03:32 UTC
(In reply to Tristan Miller from comment #27)
> If KNode really is unmaintained, then I suppose it's fine to mark all the
> KNode bugs as such.  But please don't tell people to use KMail instead
> unless KNode's core functionality (i.e., the ability to read and post to
> newsgroups via NNTP) really has been integrated into KMail.
> 
Exactly!

slightly OT:
The really bad thing is, IIRC Knode still has qt3 stuff. So even if "just" unmaintained, it is unlikey to work on newer system (kf5, etc.) :-(

However some time on some KDE ML, I have read that some dev was working on it... I wonder what happend to it...
Comment 29 Andrew Crouthamel 2018-09-04 18:40:09 UTC
Hello! Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but this project has been unmaintained for many years so I am closing this bug.