Bug 63397 - Menu editor is confusing!
Summary: Menu editor is confusing!
Status: RESOLVED WORKSFORME
Alias: None
Product: kmenuedit
Classification: Applications
Component: general (show other bugs)
Version: 0.4
Platform: openSUSE Linux
: NOR normal
Target Milestone: ---
Assignee: Unassigned bugs mailing-list
URL:
Keywords:
Depends on:
Blocks:
 
Reported: 2003-08-29 04:13 UTC by Ben Burdette
Modified: 2020-12-22 04:34 UTC (History)
2 users (show)

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Attachments
1st.broken.applications-kmenuedit.menu (2.49 KB, text/plain)
2003-12-31 10:44 UTC, mike idee
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after.broken.removed.run.kbuildsycoca.applications-kmenuedit.menu (128 bytes, text/plain)
2003-12-31 10:44 UTC, mike idee
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after.edit.closed.applications-kmenuedit.menu (11.35 KB, text/plain)
2003-12-31 10:44 UTC, mike idee
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applications-kmenuedit.menu (11.35 KB, text/plain)
2003-12-31 10:44 UTC, mike idee
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kbuildsycoca --menutest (66.57 KB, text/plain)
2003-12-31 18:59 UTC, mike idee
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1st-1.broken.applications-kmenuedit.menu (2.49 KB, text/plain)
2003-12-31 19:05 UTC, mike idee
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after-1.broken.removed.run.kbuildsycoca.applications-kmenuedit.menu (128 bytes, text/plain)
2003-12-31 19:05 UTC, mike idee
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after-1.edit.closed.applications-kmenuedit.menu (11.35 KB, text/plain)
2003-12-31 19:05 UTC, mike idee
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applications-kmenuedit-1.menu (11.35 KB, text/plain)
2003-12-31 19:05 UTC, mike idee
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Description Ben Burdette 2003-08-29 04:13:32 UTC
Version:           0.4 (using KDE 3.1.1)
Installed from:    SuSE
Compiler:          gcc version 3.3 20030226 (prerelease) (SuSE Linux)
OS:          Linux (i686) release 2.4.20-64GB-SMP

Ok, I'm new to KDE, so maybe I didn't do something right.

I found the menu editor very confusing!  I wanted to add mozilla to my menu under internet, and did so, but then it turns out the "internet" category is nowhere to be found, there is actually another 'internet' category under the SUSE menu.  Where are all these other menus that are listed in the K menu editor?  The only ones that show up in the task bar are the SUSE menu and SUSE work menu.

The other problem I had once I figured out that the Internet category at the top level had nothing to do with anything was that after I added the link to mozilla into the right place it didn't show up in the menu.  I closed the menu editor and reopened it, and looked again at the SUSE->Internet menu, and it had appeared there!  Why didn't it appear there the first time, after I clicked 'apply'?  

If you have to close the menu editor and reopen it for your changes to appear, I'd like to be directed to do so by the program.  Otherwise, I'd expect changes to take effect when 'apply' is clicked.  And, I'd like an explanation of why most of the menus listed in the K menu editor don't appear anywhere.  What are they there for?  Why is there a whole SUSE menu inside the KDE menu, and the suse menu contains most of the same things as the KDE menu, yet the KDE menu items are nowhere to be found?
Comment 1 Ben Burdette 2003-08-29 17:17:35 UTC
Arg, I'm frustrated!  Ok, I was playing around with the menu editor, and moved
the SUSE menu into the openoffice menu right next to it, making the SUSE menu a
submenu of the openoffice menu, just to see what would happen.  There was no
change.  Then I reopened the menu editor and moved the suse menu back out again,
and closed the menu editor, now the suse menu is gone!  Reopening the menu
editor reveals the suse menu is neither in the openoffice submenu, nor at the
top level as before.  Hopefully I'll be able to copy the suse menu from the root
user settings somehow.  Anyway this program definately doesn't work right on my
system!
Comment 2 Jaro Gress 2003-11-12 14:03:03 UTC
I have installed kdetoys and they did not appear on the menu. They appeared in the menu editor correctly. Clearly the menu editor menu tree is not in sync with the menu on the desktop. kdemenueditor 0.4 in kde 3.1.4 from SuSE 9.0.
Comment 3 Waldo Bastian 2003-11-12 15:41:30 UTC
Ref #2: This problem has been fixed already (And will be in the next SUSE update for 9.0). As a workaround you can run "kbuildsycoca --noincremental"
Comment 4 mike idee 2003-12-30 06:46:50 UTC
  If I modify anything with the panel menu editor it dissappears.  If I try to add any items, or to recreate those that have been killed by this bug, nothing happens.  I have lost all of the links to apps in the internet section.  I tried the "kbuildsycoca --noincremental" as stated above, but recieved a command not found error.  I don't think it is fixed, I use the SuSE online update nightly, and should be up to date.

what we I do to fix this?
mike 
Comment 5 mike idee 2003-12-30 06:58:04 UTC
 Ok, I ran kbuildsycoca as root, and it was not found.  When I ran it as user, it did run, and said it was building, but I see no difference.  I am still missing the links.

mike 
Comment 6 Waldo Bastian 2003-12-30 11:22:47 UTC
Can you attach your ~/.config/menus/applications-kmenuedit.menu to this bug report?

AFTER you have done that, does it help if you remove this file and rerun kbuildsycoca again?
Comment 7 mike idee 2003-12-31 18:59:39 UTC
Subject: Re:  Menu editor is confusing!

If it helps here is the testmenu file.

wishing you a happy new year,
mike



On Tue, 2003-12-30 at 04:22, Waldo Bastian wrote:
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> ------- Additional Comments From bastian@kde.org  2003-12-30 11:22 -------
> Can you attach your ~/.config/menus/applications-kmenuedit.menu to this bug report?
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> AFTER you have done that, does it help if you remove this file and rerun kbuildsycoca again?


Created an attachment (id=3904)
kbuildsycoca --menutest
Comment 8 Waldo Bastian 2004-01-14 12:01:17 UTC
mike: did you delete ~/.config/menus/applications-kmenuedit.menu while kmenuedit was still running?

Can you 
1) remove it again while kmenuedit is not running
2) run kbuildsycoca --noincremental as user
3) restart kmenuedit
Comment 9 uli9999 2004-02-20 00:57:26 UTC
Waldo: Using Suse 9.0 with the "official" KDE 3.2 update (from supplemental), I have the same problem as mike.

The method you described in Comment #8 rebuilds the menu, but the problem remains if I use kmenuedit again after that.
Comment 10 mike idee 2004-02-24 06:13:42 UTC
Waldo,
  I apologize for not replying earlier, It has been a crazy winter.  I have tried everything you have suggested with no success.  Any time I use the editor, it looks good as long as I am in the editor, but as soon as I close out, anything I touched in the editor is gone.  Some of the default items are always gone as well (ie, editors are only available under utilities/editors, and not further up on the list under office.  When I run kbuildsycoca --noincremental it takes it back to where it was, (there, but a mess).  The other quirk is that now under the (misc) Applications (top item on the menu) there seems to be everything (42 apps right now) I have ever tried to add or move with the menu editor.  At this point, I would like to clean this mess up, but am afraid to try.  Everytime I do, it just messes up the kmenu even more. 

Please let me know when you think there might be a fix.
mike b.
Comment 11 Waldo Bastian 2004-05-04 16:37:38 UTC
I think the problem is caused by this directory:
	/home/dad/.kde/share/applnk/SuSE

If you rename that directory and then delete ~/.config/menus/applications-kmenuedit.menu again, things should work better.

The problem is that due to a bug, the menu gets mightily confused by menus named "SuSE" or "KDE"
Comment 12 Justin Zobel 2020-11-22 10:00:38 UTC
This appears to be a very old bug that was never closed.

Can you please test and confirm if this issue is still occurring or if this bug report can be marked as resolved. I've set the bug status to "needsinfo" pending your response, please change back to "reported" or "resolved" when you respond, thanks.
Comment 13 Bug Janitor Service 2020-12-07 04:33:59 UTC
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This bug has been in NEEDSINFO status with no change for at least
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Comment 14 Bug Janitor Service 2020-12-22 04:34:47 UTC
This bug has been in NEEDSINFO status with no change for at least
30 days. The bug is now closed as RESOLVED > WORKSFORME
due to lack of needed information.

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