Bug 56213 - kio-fish does not preserve file date/time
Summary: kio-fish does not preserve file date/time
Status: VERIFIED DUPLICATE of bug 55804
Alias: None
Product: kio
Classification: Frameworks and Libraries
Component: fish (show other bugs)
Version: unspecified
Platform: unspecified Linux
: NOR normal
Target Milestone: ---
Assignee: Jörg Walter
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Keywords:
: 89377 (view as bug list)
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Blocks:
 
Reported: 2003-03-21 19:34 UTC by Jens
Modified: 2009-02-08 19:16 UTC (History)
4 users (show)

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Description Jens 2003-03-21 19:34:29 UTC
Version:           3.1.0 (using KDE 3.1.9)
Compiler:          gcc version 3.2.3 20030228 (Debian prerelease)
OS:          Linux (i686) release 2.4.19-jb-preempt-w4l

When I copy files via fish:// (doesn't matter which direction) the file date/time are not preserved. 'scp -p' preserves them all right.

This makes it very difficult to compare directories on foreign hosts to local versions because you don't know which files are newer, as soon as you copied or moved some of them.


Thanks,
Comment 1 Jens 2003-03-21 19:36:38 UTC
I have no idea why Konqueror didn't preserve the KDE version I use, but here it is again: I'm using CVS 
from Feb 25th, 2003 on Debian unstable.  
I would have tried a more recent snapshot but they don't compile here ... 
 
Comment 2 Willy De la Court 2003-03-23 20:05:56 UTC
for the moment it's impossible to preserve the date and time since non of the ioslaves 
fish:// ftp:// support changing the date and time of a file after it's been transferred. 
Comment 3 Jens 2003-06-26 22:21:50 UTC
For FTP, the command MDTM (or MTDM?) is supposed to accomplish this.  
Would it be very hard to implement this? 
Comment 4 Jörg Walter 2003-07-27 21:08:34 UTC
Basically, copying files always means fresh timestamps. So this is not a bug, it is exactly as 
intended. Try copying with cp or scp or konqueror locally, it's the same there. kio_fish can't 
suddenly make things work differently. Moving is a different thing, there timestamps should 
be preserved, but the KIO subsystem doesn't support that yet across different protocols/
hosts. You may want to file a bug report against kio in general if you need that. 
If you are using some syncing tool to compare directories, I strongly advise you to use that 
to do the initial transfer as well. I am doing a lot of syncing myself and have found rsync and 
unison two valuable tools. 
Comment 5 Jens 2003-08-01 16:00:19 UTC
Subject: Re:  kio-fish does not preserve file date/time

On Sun, Jul 27, 2003 at 07:08:35PM -0000, J
Comment 6 Thiago Macieira 2003-08-01 19:55:42 UTC
When a file is MOVED, it's access times should be kept. When it's COPIED, you create a 
copy (the cp and scp default behaviour, without the preserve switches), so it has a different 
a/c/mtime. 
 
Again, the problem is that KIO doesn't support this yet. 
Comment 7 Jörg Walter 2003-08-04 09:53:56 UTC
As Thiago says, "cp -a"/"scp -p" is not a plain COPY. As for rsync, really do try unison, it is a 
great synchronization tool which uses librsync for data transfer, it is bidirectional and has 
conflict resolution. 
 
Comment 8 Andreas Bayer 2004-06-30 00:54:21 UTC
so please implement unison in konqueror.
i will open a wish for that.
Comment 9 Matej Cepl 2004-12-12 01:08:55 UTC
a) this is probably dup of bug# 89377 (or more likely that is a dup of this one, as this is bigger),
b) Midnight Commander DOES preserve time for me when copying files over scp, maybe the inspiration of how they do it.

Matej
Comment 10 Andy Parkins 2005-09-09 14:06:50 UTC
Why has this bug been marked resolved?  The non-preservation of timestamps makes using these protocols to update a remote directory very difficult.

Take for example, someone working on one file in three places:

make file1 on local host
copy file1 -> remote host 1
edit file1 on remote host 1
copy file1 -> remote host 2

Which one holds the the newest?  localhost, remotehost1 or remotehost2?

The truth is that it is on remotehost1; but the timestamps will tell you that it is on remotehost2.   I can't see any justification for saying that copying a file should alter the timestamp.  A copy should be just that - a copy.
Comment 11 David Faure 2006-02-27 15:19:26 UTC
Yes marking this as invalid is wrong. The idea of KIO::copy is to emulate cp -a, i.e. to preserve mtime; it already does so on the local file system.
#79937 and #55804 are about implementing the support for this in KIO (which I'm about to do), this one is for kio_fish in particular, once kio supports it.
Comment 12 Martin Koller 2006-11-04 18:35:23 UTC
*** Bug 89377 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 13 Dotan Cohen 2008-03-27 13:49:19 UTC
Note that the behaviour is different for uploads than for downloads. In Konqueror 3.5.8, when files are copied via ssh from a remote host to local, the file's date is the date that the original file was created on the remote host. However, if the file is then copied from local to a different remote host, the new file's date is today. The inconsistency leads to even more confusion.
Comment 14 Dotan Cohen 2008-12-04 22:29:35 UTC
This bug seems to be a dupe of bug 55804 as that bug addresses the issue for all protocol types, not just fish.
Comment 15 Dotan Cohen 2008-12-04 22:42:51 UTC

*** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of bug 55804 ***
Comment 16 Thorsten Staerk 2009-02-08 14:17:31 UTC
If I move a file via fish using copy, the file date is preserved. If I move it via CUT and PASTE, the file date gets set to now. This is unexpected, so it is a bug.
Comment 17 Dotan Cohen 2009-02-08 19:02:08 UTC
Tstaerk, this bug was marked as dupe, not closed. Please add your comments and use case to bug 55804. Thanks.

*** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of bug 55804 ***