Bug 513252 - I think it would be better to have the standard size changing controls (CTRL with +|-|0) for subtitles instead of zooming the video.
Summary: I think it would be better to have the standard size changing controls (CTRL ...
Status: RESOLVED INTENTIONAL
Alias: None
Product: Haruna
Classification: Applications
Component: generic (other bugs)
Version First Reported In: 1.6.0
Platform: Debian testing Linux
: NOR wishlist
Target Milestone: ---
Assignee: george fb
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Reported: 2025-12-12 13:40 UTC by John
Modified: 2025-12-14 00:23 UTC (History)
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Description John 2025-12-12 13:40:10 UTC
SUMMARY
I think it would be better to have the standard size changing controls (CTRL with +|-|0) for subtitles instead of zooming the video.

STEPS TO REPRODUCE
1. Start playing a video that has subtitles.
2. Press CTRL +  one of these characters (=-0) to make them bigger, smaller or reset them to their default size.

OBSERVED RESULT
The standard shortcuts to make things bigger inDolphin + Kate + web browsers don't work here.
At least not as expected.
CTRL + + is not even working at all and it took me a while to figure out why, which I guess it's because there is nothing else to zoom in on a 4K movie stretched to all the edges of the program both when windowed and in full screen, so this shortcut is not used at all. At least I guess this is the problem.
CTRL + - is working but I find it totally useless as I never needed such a thing and I still can't even image why would I or anyone else need such a thing.
You can make the player windowed and resize its window, if you really need that.
Plus, pressing CTRL + + doesn't reverses it's effect. The only way to get out of it it's to press CTRL + 0.
So you can only make the video smaller, but not bigger or the same it was in the beginning without resetting.
Strange that nobody reported this already.

EXPECTED RESULT
I expected / hoped that there will be some consistency with the other KDE programs, like Kate and Dolphin, which in turn are consistent with what the web browsers have chosen and nothing new is required to learn and remember, just for this case.


SOFTWARE/OS VERSIONS
Linux/KDE Plasma: 
KDE Plasma Version: 6.5.3
KDE Frameworks Version: 6.20.0
Qt Version: 6.9.2

ADDITIONAL INFORMATION
Long story short, I think the best (most intuitive) shortcuts would be to use:
CTRL + + for increasing the subtitles size
CTRL + - for decreasing the subtitles size
CTRL + 0 for resetting the subtitles size
As for zooming in / out and resetting the video itself I would use one of these:
SHIFT + (+|-|0)
CTRL + (arrow up | arrow down), but I don't know what would be good to reset the video zoom, maybe CTRL+ SHIFT, since the keys are close, if that can be detected.
All can be pressed with just one hand, which is good in my opinion in general, but also because the other hand might be busy with some food or drinks, which is probably common enough with movie watching.

I don't expect this to really be considered and changed / fixed / improved as none of the bug reports for this program had any success, but before abandoning it completely I said to still leave behind some feedback with what I think its not as good as it could be and is also not consistent with what people used to KDE software have learned already.
Also for elderly people is hard enough to teach them that they can use the CTRL + = or - when they need things to be bigger or smaller, having to teach them something unique to a single program is even worse and very close to impossible.
Comment 1 george fb 2025-12-13 10:41:40 UTC
All shortcuts can be changed.
Comment 2 John 2025-12-14 00:19:13 UTC
(In reply to george fb from comment #1)
> All shortcuts can be changed.

That's good in general.
But not ideal!
As we're humans and we naturally look for the least amount of effort for everything.
Plus neither Haruna nor Plasma has a way to export and import all the changed things (options + shortcuts).
And for sure I don't have the will to constantly manually re-create them from scratch on all my computers + family's computers + friends' computers every time I install or reinstall the OS!
As an example, I once opened a bug report to request the addition of a shortcut to show the statistics like in MPV.
Which you refused  to do it, but you told me that I ca add some custom code and assign a shortcut to that.
A thing that I did and it worked, but being some custom code and a custom shortcut, I now don't have it anymore.
As since then I broke the OS so much that I had to reinstall it and there was so much to restore, I forgot to do it for Haruna too and honestly I was not in the mood to come here, login and search for that bug report to find again that code that will fix it only on this computer only up to the next reinstall.
So I just gave up to fix what I don't like or don't have.
It's too much time wasting if I have to do it all over again so many times.
Also Haruna seems to have some regression as it started to stutter a bit while playing large movies from my external USB drive.
For which I switched back to VLC.

With so many of things that I want not being there or being so far away from what I consider ideal and all the feature requests that I did here being straight denied or so-called resolved because I can manually do what I want by configuring the settings, even though they will not sync over multiple computers or resist over reinstalls (clean installs) of the OS, I'll never see myself ever donating to or adopting Haruna, and maybe other people have thought the same here:
https://kde.org/fundraisers/yearend2025/#adoptable-apps
I find it pretty strange that such a good enough player where HDR actually work, was not already fully adopted.
Especially when movies and videos playing is a very common thing that a lot of users probably do.

I think I did my job leaving enough feedback about what bothers me and why I would not donate for it.

It's up to you or other developers, if you want to improve the program from customizable, which is good, to intuitive with good defaults, which would be great.
Comment 3 george fb 2025-12-14 00:23:22 UTC
¯\_(ツ)_/¯