SUMMARY When editing an operation the input section is not at the bottom of the window, leading to unnecessary and annoying useless mouse movements. STEPS TO REPRODUCE 1. Open an account ledger where there are few operations displayed 2. Add a new operation 3. The input section is in the middle of the window 4. Open an account ledger where there are a lot of operations displayed 5. Add a new operation 6. The input section is at the bottom of the window OBSERVED RESULT The operation input section is not always at the same place, leading to unnecessary mouse movements. EXPECTED RESULT The operation input section should always be at the same place to ease input of a lot operations one after another. SOFTWARE/OS VERSIONS Operating System: Debian GNU/Linux 13 KDE Plasma Version: 6.5.3 KDE Frameworks Version: 6.20.0 Qt Version: 6.9.2 Kernel Version: 6.17.8+deb14-amd64 (64-bit) Graphics Platform: X11 Processors: 4 × Intel® Core™ i7-7567U CPU @ 3.50GHz Memory: 32 Gio of RAM (31.2 Gio usable) Graphics Processor: Intel® Iris® Plus Graphics 650
Hello, I have just commented in the other bug you created https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=512750#c1 that the user interface changes between version 5.13. and 5.2.0 brought the things you mention in the bug. However, this are no bugs, but software improvement decided by development team. You say > The operation input section is not always at the same place, leading to unnecessary mouse movements. Actually, the transaction input section is always a) at the place where my mouse is currently in the ledger (for existing transactions i want to edit). b) at the bottom of the ledger if i want to enter a new transaction manually. Are you making a lot of transaction edition and transaction creation at the same time? If yes i can understand you have to scroll up and down a lot. However, it is also necessary when searching for old transaction one wants to edit, regardless of the place where the transaction editor opens, isn't it?
(In reply to surcouf from comment #1) > Hello, > I have just commented in the other bug you created > https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=512750#c1 that the user interface > changes between version 5.13. and 5.2.0 brought the things you mention in > the bug. > However, this are no bugs, but software improvement decided by development > team. « it's not a bug, it's a feature » ;) I understand that it was an intentional and wanted/debated modification. > You say > > The operation input section is not always at the same place, leading to unnecessary mouse movements. > > Actually, the transaction input section is always > a) at the place where my mouse is currently in the ledger (for existing > transactions i want to edit). Indeed. > b) at the bottom of the ledger if i want to enter a new transaction manually. Well... Not always. As an example, when almost all of the previous Reconcilliation transactions are masked, there is no transaction displayed. In this case adding a new transaction is at the top of the window. If you have a few non-reconcilled transations, the new transation is displayed around the middle of the window. > Are you making a lot of transaction edition and transaction creation at the > same time? If yes i can understand you have to scroll up and down a lot. Yes. Unfortunately, my wife tend to accumulate bills and give them to me all at once. And some time I'm just too lazy to enter them fast enough ;) > However, it is also necessary when searching for old transaction one wants > to edit, regardless of the place where the transaction editor opens, isn't > it? Indeed, when editing an old transation, it's a bit easier than before. Anyway, overall, I found that, in general, the UX/UI changes in the 5.2 version not as polished as in the previous version : - colors in dark theme - mouse mouvements (hopefully there are keyboard shortcuts ;) ) - tabbed accounts :( Those are all my personal opinions of course. What I would love to is to have a TUI version of KMM ;) Thomas.
Created attachment 187291 [details] New transation after all reconcilliations
Created attachment 187292 [details] New transation after all reconcilliations (adding it)
> Yes. Unfortunately, my wife tend to accumulate bills and give them to me all at once. And some > time I'm just too lazy to enter them fast enough ;) I solved this by reducing the data sources as much as possible, i.e. : a) having one current account for the household. The other accounts - if they exist - are savings accounts. (if you have more than one currency, this model must be replicated though...). Advantage: I need to update only one account in KMyMoney, so less work with different banks having different systems and formats. b) pay as much as possible everything using debit cards associated to the unique current account -> nothing gets forgotten, even the things paid in cash are tracked as withdrawals (which i may split afterwards in KMyMoney if i know what is behind them) from this current account -> no time shift issue (like credit card payment booking at the end of month and needing an extra account to get the proper dates, category, payee). What about the status of this bug? Do you want to keep it open? or do you want to set it to "resolved"?
(In reply to surcouf from comment #5) > > Yes. Unfortunately, my wife tend to accumulate bills and give them to me all at once. And some > > time I'm just too lazy to enter them fast enough ;) > > I solved this by reducing the data sources as much as possible, i.e. : > a) having one current account for the household. The other accounts - if > they exist - are savings accounts. (if you have more than one currency, this > model must be replicated though...). Advantage: I need to update only one > account in KMyMoney, so less work with different banks having different > systems and formats. Not possible in our case due to several circumstances -_-; > b) pay as much as possible everything using debit cards associated to the > unique current account -> nothing gets forgotten, Not so sure ;) Card payment bills can be lost (and that happened several times). I don't rely on banks account statements because they are way too inaccurate (in time) and I want to double-check if withdrawals are "normal" or due to malicious intent. The only account I do not need paper bills is for an online bank where everything goes into the app to keep it up to date... So for this account I do not even need KMM. > What about the status of this bug? > Do you want to keep it open? or do you want to set it to "resolved"? I did report it because I do not like how it has become. However if it's a wanted and supported by the development team, you can close it. Thomas.