After using this application for 3 months, I can confidently say that: This is the most GARBAGE **** I have ever used. Seriously? Who the **** coded this and was like, "Yep! That’s a video editor"? No… it's a **** editor. You can’t even call it an "editor" because that’s one of the things you can’t do in this **** app. Like, let’s get down to basics first. When you import a video, it tries to switch the profile so you can’t import multiple videos back-to-back. And let’s talk about the PROFILE **** — why does it even exist? We don’t know. All you had to do was just put a settings icon and a basic menu like “resolution, fps” and that’s it. Also, you can’t just use any video — NoOoOo, that would be too much — because of some “variable framerate” ******. This never exists except in Kdenlive apparently?? So you say “fine, convert it,” and guess what? It can’t do that either. It just fails. Like bro, just use ffmpeg internally — I just do ffmpeg -i input.mkv input.mp4 and it works, but this is too much to handle I guess. And let’s talk about the timeline — why is it ****? I don’t know. But apparently, you can’t just grab the arrow and jump around the video while it plays. oOoOoOo Kdenlive goes “oh wait, you want me to play the video and let you jump around in it??? That’s too much uwu.” So there’s that. And let’s talk about snapping. Why is there nothing about snap distance? Like it’s trying to snap the videos for a toddler. The threshold for cutting the videos is also too high — I have to grab the video and jank it around just so I can shorten it. And then guess what? My video cursor thing is there, so it just snaps to that from 3 miles away… how great. I mean, if you think I’m bad with this application — seriously, record a video in OBS, put it in Kdenlive, render it as H.264, upload it to Discord — what do you get? A video with static sound. Literally TV static sound. Discord bug? I don’t care. That only happens in Kdenlive. Let’s give another example: make a 3-hour edit, it’s all great, render the video, and guess what? Things shifted magically on their own. So the video you just made is now garbage. You have to go all the way back and move everything’s position back to normal. Why do these Kdenlive timelines get haunted on their own? I have no idea. When I put a clip, it should stay solid — but for Kdenlive, that’s too hard, I guess. Even another example: import videos, do the edit, save the project — and guess what? My video clips are now different from what I made. Instead of cutting, I just adjusted the left and right to get the correct clip out of the video. But when I saved the project, it shifted itself to a random place in the video. If it can’t remember the position, why add this feature? If I knew this, I would’ve just cut the video :/ more hours lost. Effects: they’re **** too. Like I add transform to a clip, but if you act the wrong way or just look at the editor the wrong way, the effect just locks itself down. It doesn’t matter if I remove/add it back. I know you can toggle them from the timeline, BUT even that won’t work. I can’t add any effect to any clip. The project just becomes haunted and I have to start over. Use ANYTHING except this. Really, ANYTHING. Doesn’t matter — even the Windows video editor is better than this. It’s also very good in performance — 13th gen i7 and the thing just comes to a halt on a 1440p video.
(In reply to Bababoi from comment #0) > After using this application for 3 months, I can confidently say that: Thanks for giving this free and open source software a shot. And thanks for the feedback. > This is the most GARBAGE **** I have ever used. Seriously? Who the **** > coded this and was like, "Yep! That’s a video editor"? No… it's a **** > editor. You can’t even call it an "editor" because that’s one of the things > you can’t do in this **** app. I don't think there is a need to yell or use expletives, even though I can feel your frustration. But I strongly object to the attack on the developer (who I am not, btw). Just FYI: there is only one who gets help once in a while and just a handful of others who occasionally contribute code. Considering this is done on the side, I think this is a strong and powerful piece of software. > Like, let’s get down to basics first. When you import a video, it tries to > switch the profile so you can’t import multiple videos back-to-back. And > let’s talk about the PROFILE **** — why does it even exist? We don’t know. The profile controls several things for the project and needs to be considered beforehand. You can select a default profile in the settings, but Kdenlive allows you to adjust the profile based on the parameters/values of the very first source you import. This started as a warning when users tried to import vertical videos into a project with a profile for a horizontal video, then evolved into the ability to change the profile, and is configurable: Settings > Configure Kdenlive > Misc > Check if first added clip matches project profile > Also, you can’t just use any video — > NoOoOo, that would be too much — because of some “variable framerate” > ******. This never exists except in Kdenlive apparently?? So you say “fine, > convert it,” and guess what? It can’t do that either. It just fails. Like > bro, just use ffmpeg internally — I just do ffmpeg -i input.mkv input.mp4 > and it works, but this is too much to handle I guess. You can skip the transcode step but if you use effects with keyframes or a time re-map, you may encounter issues and sync problems. I am not sure how other editors handle this but Kdenlive chose this route: give the user control over what is happening. AFAIK, in the background a ffmpeg command is used but it is a bit more elaborate than what you stated in order to keep the time it takes at a minimum and also quality at as the highest possible. > And let’s talk about the timeline — why is it ****? I don’t know. But > apparently, you can’t just grab the arrow and jump around the video while it > plays. oOoOoOo Kdenlive goes “oh wait, you want me to play the video and let > you jump around in it??? That’s too much uwu.” So there’s that. There is some development taking place to allow the user to play the video, grab the playhead, move it someplace else, and keep playing from there. No ETA yet, though. > And let’s talk about snapping. Why is there nothing about snap distance? > Like it’s trying to snap the videos for a toddler. The threshold for cutting > the videos is also too high — I have to grab the video and jank it around > just so I can shorten it. And then guess what? My video cursor thing is > there, so it just snaps to that from 3 miles away… how great. You know you can switch off snapping? If that happens, switch it off and adjust the clip(s), and then switch it back on. Or zoom in far enough to space the snap points further apart. One feature request could be to a) ask for a snap distance to be added to the settings, or b) to be able to select what to snap to (cuts, markers, guides, start and end point, ...). > I mean, if you think I’m bad with this application — seriously, record a > video in OBS, put it in Kdenlive, render it as H.264, upload it to Discord — > what do you get? A video with static sound. Literally TV static sound. > Discord bug? I don’t care. That only happens in Kdenlive. Do you have an example for that? AFAIK, there are many users of Kdenlive that do exactly this and no one has filed a bug report about this. > Let’s give another example: make a 3-hour edit, it’s all great, render the > video, and guess what? Things shifted magically on their own. So the video > you just made is now garbage. You have to go all the way back and move > everything’s position back to normal. Why do these Kdenlive timelines get > haunted on their own? I have no idea. When I put a clip, it should stay > solid — but for Kdenlive, that’s too hard, I guess. Granted, this happens. It happened to me also, luckily for a small project. Best thing to do is to open a bug report and give as much details as possible, attach screenshots and the .kdenlive project file. Keep calm and stay to facts and reason, and someone will look into this and fix it eventually. I didn't report it (my bad, sorry) because I could easily fix it but I will as soon as it happens again. Keep in mind this is a complex piece of software. and debugging it is complex and complicated, and takes a lot of time. The better the bug report, the easier it is to replicate, troubleshoot, and fix it. > Even another example: import videos, do the edit, save the project — and > guess what? My video clips are now different from what I made. Instead of > cutting, I just adjusted the left and right to get the correct clip out of > the video. But when I saved the project, it shifted itself to a random place > in the video. If it can’t remember the position, why add this feature? If I > knew this, I would’ve just cut the video :/ more hours lost. Same as above: please report this as a bug. Embedding it in a rant like this won't achieve nothing > Effects: they’re **** too. Like I add transform to a clip, but if you act > the wrong way or just look at the editor the wrong way, the effect just > locks itself down. It doesn’t matter if I remove/add it back. I know you can > toggle them from the timeline, BUT even that won’t work. I can’t add any > effect to any clip. The project just becomes haunted and I have to start > over. Effects are provided by MLT using avfilter and frei0r libraries. If something went wrong with the effects there is very little Kdenlive ca do about it. Again, a bug report helps to get a conversation between the various teams started. Finally, there have been some issues with the Windows built. AFAIK, they are fixed in the upcoming 25.04 release, but you may want to give the standalone version a try. I get you needed to vent, but now we should engage in a meaningful discussion about what needs to be fixed and what workarounds exist to some of the issues. Not everything can and will be changed (nor should it) just because a small number of users couldn't be bothered. Any constructive feedback is looked at and taken into consideration. Thanks for your understanding!
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