Bug 493071 - [Regression] New Kwin Has Broken Default Animations
Summary: [Regression] New Kwin Has Broken Default Animations
Status: RESOLVED INTENTIONAL
Alias: None
Product: frameworks-kwindowsystem
Classification: Frameworks and Libraries
Component: general (show other bugs)
Version: 6.5.0
Platform: Arch Linux Linux
: NOR normal
Target Milestone: ---
Assignee: KWin default assignee
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Reported: 2024-09-13 16:28 UTC by bugreporting
Modified: 2024-11-18 01:13 UTC (History)
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Two Screenshots in One - Panel Setting To Reproduce The Bug [easy] (12.21 KB, image/webp)
2024-09-13 16:28 UTC, bugreporting
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Description bugreporting 2024-09-13 16:28:37 UTC
Created attachment 173628 [details]
Two Screenshots in One - Panel Setting To Reproduce The Bug [easy]

Please bear in mind that I was mad when writing this bug... Too many on a freshly installed distro with KDE...

SUMMARY
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New Kwin Has Broken Default Animations
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STEPS TO REPRODUCE:
0. Set up two workspaces (wrongly named desktops*) as in screenshots
1. Set up normal non-apple/non-windows task manager with 100% opacity (the way it has been for 20 years)-see screenshots.
2. Put just three icons on the panel in the following order:
a) KDE settings
b) Dolphin
c) Falkon
3. Open Dolphin
4. Click the workspace switcher (wrongly named "pager"**) to go to the next wrokspace (wrongly named desktop*) and observe Falkon icon (wtf?!)

OBSERVED RESULT:
Follow the steps to reproduce and look (stare) at the  Falkon icon while you're switching to the second workspace (wrongly named desktop*). Make your eyes follow the Falkon icon. What is going on?
[[I'm trying to report the bug, but I myself am buffled: Did Dolphin launch icon has just disappeared?? Whaaaat?! I had not set up any rules to skip taskbar/panel! This is a fresh install! I checked to be sure and: Nope! Zero, zilch, nada! Now Falkon icon is dancing like crazy! What is goin on?! This is broken...please stop meddling...:(]]

EXPECTED RESULT:
0. Revert the Kwin changes to have properly working animations (just like before).
1. Stop changing just for the sake of changes. KDE is not Microsoft nor Apple. No need to follow stupidity :(.

FINAL THOUGHTS [to discuss with Nathaniel during the next meeting]:
5 minutes of setting up a new system with new KDE and here we already have:
a) broken contrast with transparency - my poor eyes;
b) wasted pixels on floating-panel;
c) icon launchers indistinguashable from already running software/i.e. indistinguishable from already opened windows <-- so what happens if you click such an icon?? Which one is it? Dots? Underscore? Arrow pointing to? Multiple clicks? Hovers and mouse move and then click (more clicks and steps like in GNOME? What for? Trying to pretend to be Apple or MS? Sake for the sake of changes? For millenials? We now don't even know what is opened! What windows are opened and what is in them! And switching with just one click is gone. Gone is a quick glance and you know what is opened with what! 
d) on top of it now we have broken animations and
e) disappearing icons too!

This is NOT good. Not at all :(. Just please don't!. Make KDE usable again! Simply, I beg you! Stop meddling! KDE used to be so good... [not my fault, that I runt like Alex Jones, you made me! I loved old KDE that just worked, sort of...].


SOFTWARE/OS VERSIONS:
kwin 6.1.4-1
KDE Plasma Version: 6.1.4
KDE Frameworks Version: 6.5.0
Qt Version: 6.7.2
Graphics Platform: X11
Graphics Processor: Intel

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*"DESKTOP" is a meaningless word. Let's have WORKSPACES!
** "PAGER"? Really? Who did come up with it?!
Pager was an old device before cell phones became popular: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pager 
This is not that device. You could have also renamed it to cellphone or smarthpne or a speaker or a tablet. It's a wrong name! Let's have WORKSPACE SWITCHER back.
[It just came to me: you do not speak English! English is NOT your native language! And you are millenials who grew up with cellphones! You don't know what a PAGER is! Check the above wikipedia page, oh my, oh my; let's use language that we all agreed upon...].
Comment 1 John Kizer 2024-11-18 01:13:49 UTC
A better place to discuss design choices is in the Visual Design Group chatroom, because this isn't really a bug or a discrete feature request. As such it would make more sense to discuss it, respectfully, in a group setting where existing design choices and constraints that may not be immediately obvious can be explained, and we can go over which elements of your statements here might make sense to integrate.

Check out https://community.kde.org/Get_Involved/Design.

Thanks for understanding.