Bug 491863 - The root password
Summary: The root password
Status: CLOSED NOT A BUG
Alias: None
Product: Discover
Classification: Applications
Component: discover (show other bugs)
Version: 5.27.11
Platform: openSUSE Linux
: NOR normal
Target Milestone: ---
Assignee: Plasma Bugs List
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Reported: 2024-08-18 15:23 UTC by Alex Geer
Modified: 2024-08-18 22:24 UTC (History)
5 users (show)

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Description Alex Geer 2024-08-18 15:23:16 UTC
Now, when installing updates through the Discovery program, I had to enter the root password 78 times in a row.

Not to call it bullying would be a crime against humanity.

What prevents you from checking the "Remember password" box and storing it in memory while the program is running?
Comment 1 fanzhuyifan 2024-08-18 16:49:11 UTC
This an opensuse specific issue. Check out the discussion here https://www.reddit.com/r/kde/comments/y3h388/kde_discover_ask_root_password_many_times_during/ for a solution.
Comment 2 Alex Geer 2024-08-18 16:59:37 UTC
Shifting the problem to another area of responsibility does not improve your application, but only speaks of incompetence.

There is nothing stopping you from adding password memorization to the application during the session instead of shifting the problem to openSUSE.

Refine the application to a professional level and it will work on any Linux, instead of unsubscribing that this is not your problem and read there and there.

At least that's what the professionals would do.
Comment 3 Alex Geer 2024-08-18 17:01:20 UTC
But of course it's up to you. I have to delete this misunderstanding called the application.
Comment 4 fanzhuyifan 2024-08-18 17:03:13 UTC
(In reply to Alex Geer from comment #2)
> Shifting the problem to another area of responsibility does not improve your
> application, but only speaks of incompetence.
> 
> There is nothing stopping you from adding password memorization to the
> application during the session instead of shifting the problem to openSUSE.

Unfortunately storing the root password in memory is not something that we can feasibly do without imposing security risks.
Comment 5 Alex Geer 2024-08-18 17:10:08 UTC
Not at all. You're just showing your unwillingness to do anything at all.

I work under a user who is allowed sudo, you could check this from the application and not ask for the root password at all.

I mentioned competence for a reason. You should not refer to the fact that this is not your problem or take responsibility for security when you are not asked to do so.
If the user checks the "Save password" box, then the user assumes responsibility of security risk.

Please do not confuse safety with laziness.
Comment 6 Alex Geer 2024-08-18 17:11:28 UTC
(In reply to fanzhuyifan from comment #4)
> (In reply to Alex Geer from comment #2)
> > Shifting the problem to another area of responsibility does not improve your
> > application, but only speaks of incompetence.
> > 
> > There is nothing stopping you from adding password memorization to the
> > application during the session instead of shifting the problem to openSUSE.
> 
> Unfortunately storing the root password in memory is not something that we
> can feasibly do without imposing security risks.

Can you check if the user has sudo and use it?
Comment 7 Nicolas Fella 2024-08-18 17:17:34 UTC
Alex, your conduct here is unacceptable. Calling things "crime against humanity" and blindly assuming incompetence are not constructive ways to talk about an issue.

Please familiarize yourself with the KDE Code of Conduct (https://kde.org/code-of-conduct/) before further engaging with KDE
Comment 8 Alex Geer 2024-08-18 17:21:07 UTC
(In reply to Nicolas Fella from comment #7)
> Alex, your conduct here is unacceptable. Calling things "crime against
> humanity" and blindly assuming incompetence are not constructive ways to
> talk about an issue.
> 
> Please familiarize yourself with the KDE Code of Conduct
> (https://kde.org/code-of-conduct/) before further engaging with KDE

I'm sorry, I forgot a little that I'm dealing with a world that accepts what happens at the Olympics, all perversions and crimes are acceptable, but honesty and truth are not acceptable. I was wrong. You're great! keep it up !
Comment 9 Alex Geer 2024-08-18 17:27:49 UTC
I think it's worth closing this discussion. I understood everything perfectly. I deleted the app Discover.
Comment 10 Shawn W Dunn 2024-08-18 17:30:46 UTC
(In reply to Alex Geer from comment #8)
> (In reply to Nicolas Fella from comment #7)
> > Alex, your conduct here is unacceptable. Calling things "crime against
> > humanity" and blindly assuming incompetence are not constructive ways to
> > talk about an issue.
> > 
> > Please familiarize yourself with the KDE Code of Conduct
> > (https://kde.org/code-of-conduct/) before further engaging with KDE
> 
> I'm sorry, I forgot a little that I'm dealing with a world that accepts what
> happens at the Olympics, all perversions and crimes are acceptable, but
> honesty and truth are not acceptable. I was wrong. You're great! keep it up !

Speaking as an openSUSE Maintainer, your conduct is not only deplorable, but you're filing it in the wrong place.  This isn't upstreams issue, and I would rightly expect that the openSUSE Security team would have a huge problem with upstream creating some sort of root credential caching.

This bug report belongs on the openSUSE Bugtracker, as this isn't a KDE/Plasma/Discover bug in the first place.

But if you're just going to be abusive to the openSUSE Maintainers as well, I doubt you'll get much traction there either.

https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=openSUSE%20Distribution&component=KDE%20Applications would be the proper place to file this bug.
Comment 11 Alex Geer 2024-08-18 17:48:31 UTC
You're wrong. Believe me, I'm not going to offend anyone, but if honest words are an insult to you, there's nothing I can do to help you.
You probably got to the bottom of the reason for the appeal, along with your unwillingness to solve the problem, this led you to the false conclusion that you were being insulted. It is ok. You are who you are and no one will change that.
Comment 12 David Edmundson 2024-08-18 22:24:12 UTC
There has recently been a change in Discover to batch things differently already, triggered from a more productive bug reporter.