Bug 483633 - KDE crashes
Summary: KDE crashes
Status: RESOLVED DUPLICATE of bug 414805
Alias: None
Product: kwin
Classification: Plasma
Component: general (show other bugs)
Version: 5.27.5
Platform: Debian stable Linux
: NOR crash
Target Milestone: ---
Assignee: KWin default assignee
URL:
Keywords: drkonqi
Depends on:
Blocks:
 
Reported: 2024-03-15 08:34 UTC by Per Kristian Lehre
Modified: 2024-04-09 22:44 UTC (History)
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Description Per Kristian Lehre 2024-03-15 08:34:25 UTC
Application: kwin_x11 (5.27.5)

Qt Version: 5.15.8
Frameworks Version: 5.103.0
Operating System: Linux 6.5.0-0.deb12.4-amd64 x86_64
Windowing System: X11
Distribution: Debian GNU/Linux 12 (bookworm)
DrKonqi: 5.27.5 [CoredumpBackend]

-- Information about the crash:
KDE/Plasma crashes on Alt-Tab. This also frequently occur when launching Alt-F2 (run command).

The crash can be reproduced sometimes.

-- Backtrace:
Application: KWin (kwin_x11), signal: Segmentation fault

           PID: 2891 (kwin_x11)
           UID: 1000 (pkl)
           GID: 1000 (pkl)
        Signal: 11 (SEGV)
     Timestamp: Fri 2024-03-15 08:28:58 GMT (23s ago)
  Command Line: /usr/bin/kwin_x11 --replace
    Executable: /usr/bin/kwin_x11
 Control Group: /user.slice/user-1000.slice/user@1000.service/session.slice/plasma-kwin_x11.service
          Unit: user@1000.service
     User Unit: plasma-kwin_x11.service
         Slice: user-1000.slice
     Owner UID: 1000 (pkl)
       Boot ID: 8b7e67788add4f389da86fc4c408b83b
    Machine ID: 7fcd3436b0014390ad911a19bca45323
      Hostname: zeta
       Storage: /var/lib/systemd/coredump/core.kwin_x11.1000.8b7e67788add4f389da86fc4c408b83b.2891.1710491338000000.zst (present)
  Size on Disk: 6.6M
       Message: Process 2891 (kwin_x11) of user 1000 dumped core.
                
                Module libsystemd.so.0 from deb systemd-252.22-1~deb12u1.amd64
                Module libudev.so.1 from deb systemd-252.22-1~deb12u1.amd64
                Stack trace of thread 2891:
                #0  0x00007f036baa9e2c __pthread_kill_implementation (libc.so.6 + 0x8ae2c)
                #1  0x00007f036ba5afb2 __GI_raise (libc.so.6 + 0x3bfb2)
                #2  0x00007f036eea5b46 _ZN6KCrash19defaultCrashHandlerEi (libKF5Crash.so.5 + 0x5b46)
                #3  0x00007f036ba5b050 __restore_rt (libc.so.6 + 0x3c050)
                #4  0x00007f036baa9e2c __pthread_kill_implementation (libc.so.6 + 0x8ae2c)
                #5  0x00007f036ba5afb2 __GI_raise (libc.so.6 + 0x3bfb2)
                #6  0x00007f036ba5b050 __restore_rt (libc.so.6 + 0x3c050)
                #7  0x00007f036baa4e94 __futex_abstimed_wait_common64 (libc.so.6 + 0x85e94)
                #8  0x00007f036baa7558 __pthread_cond_wait_common (libc.so.6 + 0x88558)
                #9  0x00007f036c8d1a2b _ZN14QWaitCondition4waitEP6QMutex14QDeadlineTimer (libQt5Core.so.5 + 0xd1a2b)
                #10 0x00007f036e20bd58 n/a (libQt5Quick.so.5 + 0x20bd58)
                #11 0x00007f036e20d013 n/a (libQt5Quick.so.5 + 0x20d013)
                #12 0x00007f036cf493f5 _ZN7QWindow5eventEP6QEvent (libQt5Gui.so.5 + 0x1493f5)
                #13 0x00007f036c162fae _ZN19QApplicationPrivate13notify_helperEP7QObjectP6QEvent (libQt5Widgets.so.5 + 0x162fae)
                #14 0x00007f036cab16f8 _ZN16QCoreApplication15notifyInternal2EP7QObjectP6QEvent (libQt5Core.so.5 + 0x2b16f8)
                #15 0x00007f036cf3e5cd _ZN22QGuiApplicationPrivate18processExposeEventEPN29QWindowSystemInterfacePrivate11ExposeEventE (libQt5Gui.so.5 + 0x13e5cd)
                #16 0x00007f036cf11cac _ZN22QWindowSystemInterface22sendWindowSystemEventsE6QFlagsIN10QEventLoop17ProcessEventsFlagEE (libQt5Gui.so.5 + 0x111cac)
                #17 0x00007f03672fbeca n/a (libQt5XcbQpa.so.5 + 0x6deca)
                #18 0x00007f036a8627a9 g_main_context_dispatch (libglib-2.0.so.0 + 0x547a9)
                #19 0x00007f036a862a38 n/a (libglib-2.0.so.0 + 0x54a38)
                #20 0x00007f036a862acc g_main_context_iteration (libglib-2.0.so.0 + 0x54acc)
                #21 0x00007f036cb09836 _ZN20QEventDispatcherGlib13processEventsE6QFlagsIN10QEventLoop17ProcessEventsFlagEE (libQt5Core.so.5 + 0x309836)
                #22 0x00007f036cab017b _ZN10QEventLoop4execE6QFlagsINS_17ProcessEventsFlagEE (libQt5Core.so.5 + 0x2b017b)
                #23 0x00007f036cab82d6 _ZN16QCoreApplication4execEv (libQt5Core.so.5 + 0x2b82d6)
                #24 0x000055a0757cf2d1 n/a (kwin_x11 + 0x432d1)
                #25 0x00007f036ba4624a __libc_start_call_main (libc.so.6 + 0x2724a)
                #26 0x00007f036ba46305 __libc_start_main_impl (libc.so.6 + 0x27305)
                #27 0x000055a0757d07b1 n/a (kwin_x11 + 0x447b1)
                
                Stack trace of thread 5638:
                #0  0x00007f035e96a130 n/a (libnvidia-glcore.so.525.147.05 + 0x156a130)
                #1  0x00007f035e9730a5 n/a (libnvidia-glcore.so.525.147.05 + 0x15730a5)
                #2  0x00007f035e8d3c15 n/a (libnvidia-glcore.so.525.147.05 + 0x14d3c15)
                #3  0x00007f035e8dac00 n/a (libnvidia-glcore.so.525.147.05 + 0x14dac00)
                #4  0x00007f035e8726a8 n/a (libnvidia-glcore.so.525.147.05 + 0x14726a8)
                #5  0x00007f035e872a6a n/a (libnvidia-glcore.so.525.147.05 + 0x1472a6a)
                #6  0x00007f035e87034a n/a (libnvidia-glcore.so.525.147.05 + 0x147034a)
                #7  0x00007f036baa8134 start_thread (libc.so.6 + 0x89134)
                #8  0x00007f036bb287dc __clone3 (libc.so.6 + 0x1097dc)
                
                Stack trace of thread 5637:
                #0  0x00007f036bb1b15f __GI___poll (libc.so.6 + 0xfc15f)
                #1  0x00007f036eea5150 n/a (libKF5Crash.so.5 + 0x5150)
                #2  0x00007f036eea5ad6 _ZN6KCrash19defaultCrashHandlerEi (libKF5Crash.so.5 + 0x5ad6)
                #3  0x00007f036ba5b050 __restore_rt (libc.so.6 + 0x3c050)
                #4  0x00007f036cf65624 _ZNK7QScreen6handleEv (libQt5Gui.so.5 + 0x165624)
                #5  0x00007f03672d8598 _ZNK15QXcbIntegration27createPlatformOpenGLContextEP14QOpenGLContext (libQt5XcbQpa.so.5 + 0x4a598)
                #6  0x00007f036cf8254d _ZN14QOpenGLContext6createEv (libQt5Gui.so.5 + 0x18254d)
                #7  0x00007f036e2079d0 n/a (libQt5Quick.so.5 + 0x2079d0)
                #8  0x00007f036e209b35 n/a (libQt5Quick.so.5 + 0x209b35)
                #9  0x00007f036e20a46f n/a (libQt5Quick.so.5 + 0x20a46f)
                #10 0x00007f036c8cbd43 n/a (libQt5Core.so.5 + 0xcbd43)
                #11 0x00007f036baa8134 start_thread (libc.so.6 + 0x89134)
                #12 0x00007f036bb287dc __clone3 (libc.so.6 + 0x1097dc)
                
                Stack trace of thread 2958:
                #0  0x00007f036bb1b15f __GI___poll (libc.so.6 + 0xfc15f)
                #1  0x00007f036a8629ae n/a (libglib-2.0.so.0 + 0x549ae)
                #2  0x00007f036a862acc g_main_context_iteration (libglib-2.0.so.0 + 0x54acc)
                #3  0x00007f036cb09836 _ZN20QEventDispatcherGlib13processEventsE6QFlagsIN10QEventLoop17ProcessEventsFlagEE (libQt5Core.so.5 + 0x309836)
                #4  0x00007f036cab017b _ZN10QEventLoop4execE6QFlagsINS_17ProcessEventsFlagEE (libQt5Core.so.5 + 0x2b017b)
                #5  0x00007f036c8cab87 _ZN7QThread4execEv (libQt5Core.so.5 + 0xcab87)
                #6  0x00007f036dd28555 n/a (libQt5Qml.so.5 + 0x328555)
                #7  0x00007f036c8cbd43 n/a (libQt5Core.so.5 + 0xcbd43)
                #8  0x00007f036baa8134 start_thread (libc.so.6 + 0x89134)
                #9  0x00007f036bb287dc __clone3 (libc.so.6 + 0x1097dc)
                
                Stack trace of thread 2898:
                #0  0x00007f036bb1b15f __GI___poll (libc.so.6 + 0xfc15f)
                #1  0x00007f036de9dd12 n/a (libxcb.so.1 + 0xcd12)
                #2  0x00007f036dea007a xcb_wait_for_event (libxcb.so.1 + 0xf07a)
                #3  0x00007f03672faf00 n/a (libQt5XcbQpa.so.5 + 0x6cf00)
                #4  0x00007f036c8cbd43 n/a (libQt5Core.so.5 + 0xcbd43)
                #5  0x00007f036baa8134 start_thread (libc.so.6 + 0x89134)
                #6  0x00007f036bb287dc __clone3 (libc.so.6 + 0x1097dc)
                
                Stack trace of thread 2902:
                #0  0x00007f036f017b20 __tls_get_addr_slow (ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 + 0x11b20)
                #1  0x00007f036f01a208 __tls_get_addr (ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 + 0x14208)
                #2  0x00007f036c8cb246 n/a (libQt5Core.so.5 + 0xcb246)
                #3  0x00007f036cb0973a n/a (libQt5Core.so.5 + 0x30973a)
                #4  0x00007f036a861ede g_main_context_prepare (libglib-2.0.so.0 + 0x53ede)
                #5  0x00007f036a8628e3 n/a (libglib-2.0.so.0 + 0x548e3)
                #6  0x00007f036a862acc g_main_context_iteration (libglib-2.0.so.0 + 0x54acc)
                #7  0x00007f036cb0984e _ZN20QEventDispatcherGlib13processEventsE6QFlagsIN10QEventLoop17ProcessEventsFlagEE (libQt5Core.so.5 + 0x30984e)
                #8  0x00007f036cab017b _ZN10QEventLoop4execE6QFlagsINS_17ProcessEventsFlagEE (libQt5Core.so.5 + 0x2b017b)
                #9  0x00007f036c8cab87 _ZN7QThread4execEv (libQt5Core.so.5 + 0xcab87)
                #10 0x00007f036d4f2487 n/a (libQt5DBus.so.5 + 0x17487)
                #11 0x00007f036c8cbd43 n/a (libQt5Core.so.5 + 0xcbd43)
                #12 0x00007f036baa8134 start_thread (libc.so.6 + 0x89134)
                #13 0x00007f036bb287dc __clone3 (libc.so.6 + 0x1097dc)
                ELF object binary architecture: AMD x86-64

[New LWP 2891]
[New LWP 5638]
[New LWP 5637]
[New LWP 2958]
[New LWP 2898]
[New LWP 2902]
[Thread debugging using libthread_db enabled]
Using host libthread_db library "/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libthread_db.so.1".
Core was generated by `/usr/bin/kwin_x11 --replace'.
Program terminated with signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault.
#0  __pthread_kill_implementation (threadid=<optimized out>, signo=signo@entry=11, no_tid=no_tid@entry=0) at ./nptl/pthread_kill.c:44
[Current thread is 1 (Thread 0x7f03677f39c0 (LWP 2891))]
[Current thread is 1 (Thread 0x7f03677f39c0 (LWP 2891))]

Thread 6 (Thread 0x7f0365dff6c0 (LWP 2902)):
#0  __tls_get_addr_slow (ti=0x7f036cd4dba8) at ../sysdeps/x86_64/dl-tls.c:45
#1  0x00007f036f01a208 in __tls_get_addr () at ../sysdeps/x86_64/tls_get_addr.S:55
#2  0x00007f036c8cb246 in ?? () from /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libQt5Core.so.5
#3  0x00007f036cb0973a in ?? () from /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libQt5Core.so.5
#4  0x00007f036a861ede in g_main_context_prepare () from /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libglib-2.0.so.0
#5  0x00007f036a8628e3 in ?? () from /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libglib-2.0.so.0
#6  0x00007f036a862acc in g_main_context_iteration () from /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libglib-2.0.so.0
#7  0x00007f036cb0984e in QEventDispatcherGlib::processEvents(QFlags<QEventLoop::ProcessEventsFlag>) () from /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libQt5Core.so.5
#8  0x00007f036cab017b in QEventLoop::exec(QFlags<QEventLoop::ProcessEventsFlag>) () from /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libQt5Core.so.5
#9  0x00007f036c8cab87 in QThread::exec() () from /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libQt5Core.so.5
#10 0x00007f036d4f2487 in ?? () from /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libQt5DBus.so.5
#11 0x00007f036c8cbd43 in ?? () from /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libQt5Core.so.5
#12 0x00007f036baa8134 in start_thread (arg=<optimized out>) at ./nptl/pthread_create.c:442
#13 0x00007f036bb287dc in clone3 () at ../sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/x86_64/clone3.S:81

Thread 5 (Thread 0x7f036728d6c0 (LWP 2898)):
#0  0x00007f036bb1b15f in __GI___poll (fds=0x7f036728cac8, nfds=1, timeout=-1) at ../sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/poll.c:29
#1  0x00007f036de9dd12 in ?? () from /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libxcb.so.1
#2  0x00007f036dea007a in xcb_wait_for_event () from /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libxcb.so.1
#3  0x00007f03672faf00 in ?? () from /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libQt5XcbQpa.so.5
#4  0x00007f036c8cbd43 in ?? () from /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libQt5Core.so.5
#5  0x00007f036baa8134 in start_thread (arg=<optimized out>) at ./nptl/pthread_create.c:442
#6  0x00007f036bb287dc in clone3 () at ../sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/x86_64/clone3.S:81

Thread 4 (Thread 0x7f0353fff6c0 (LWP 2958)):
#0  0x00007f036bb1b15f in __GI___poll (fds=0x7f034c0029e0, nfds=1, timeout=-1) at ../sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/poll.c:29
#1  0x00007f036a8629ae in ?? () from /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libglib-2.0.so.0
#2  0x00007f036a862acc in g_main_context_iteration () from /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libglib-2.0.so.0
#3  0x00007f036cb09836 in QEventDispatcherGlib::processEvents(QFlags<QEventLoop::ProcessEventsFlag>) () from /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libQt5Core.so.5
#4  0x00007f036cab017b in QEventLoop::exec(QFlags<QEventLoop::ProcessEventsFlag>) () from /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libQt5Core.so.5
#5  0x00007f036c8cab87 in QThread::exec() () from /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libQt5Core.so.5
#6  0x00007f036dd28555 in ?? () from /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libQt5Qml.so.5
#7  0x00007f036c8cbd43 in ?? () from /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libQt5Core.so.5
#8  0x00007f036baa8134 in start_thread (arg=<optimized out>) at ./nptl/pthread_create.c:442
#9  0x00007f036bb287dc in clone3 () at ../sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/x86_64/clone3.S:81

Thread 3 (Thread 0x7f034ab256c0 (LWP 5637)):
[KCrash Handler]
#4  0x00007f036cf65624 in QScreen::handle() const () from /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libQt5Gui.so.5
#5  0x00007f03672d8598 in QXcbIntegration::createPlatformOpenGLContext(QOpenGLContext*) const () from /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libQt5XcbQpa.so.5
#6  0x00007f036cf8254d in QOpenGLContext::create() () from /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libQt5Gui.so.5
#7  0x00007f036e2079d0 in ?? () from /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libQt5Quick.so.5
#8  0x00007f036e209b35 in ?? () from /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libQt5Quick.so.5
#9  0x00007f036e20a46f in ?? () from /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libQt5Quick.so.5
#10 0x00007f036c8cbd43 in ?? () from /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libQt5Core.so.5
#11 0x00007f036baa8134 in start_thread (arg=<optimized out>) at ./nptl/pthread_create.c:442
#12 0x00007f036bb287dc in clone3 () at ../sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/x86_64/clone3.S:81

Thread 2 (Thread 0x7f03649826c0 (LWP 5638)):
#0  0x00007f035e96a130 in ?? () from /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libnvidia-glcore.so.525.147.05
#1  0x00007f035e9730a5 in ?? () from /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libnvidia-glcore.so.525.147.05
#2  0x00007f035e8d3c15 in ?? () from /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libnvidia-glcore.so.525.147.05
#3  0x00007f035e8dac00 in ?? () from /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libnvidia-glcore.so.525.147.05
#4  0x00007f035e8726a8 in ?? () from /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libnvidia-glcore.so.525.147.05
#5  0x00007f035e872a6a in ?? () from /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libnvidia-glcore.so.525.147.05
#6  0x00007f035e87034a in ?? () from /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libnvidia-glcore.so.525.147.05
#7  0x00007f036baa8134 in start_thread (arg=<optimized out>) at ./nptl/pthread_create.c:442
#8  0x00007f036bb287dc in clone3 () at ../sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/x86_64/clone3.S:81

Thread 1 (Thread 0x7f03677f39c0 (LWP 2891)):
[KCrash Handler]
#5  __pthread_kill_implementation (threadid=<optimized out>, signo=signo@entry=11, no_tid=no_tid@entry=0) at ./nptl/pthread_kill.c:44
#6  0x00007f036baa9e8f in __pthread_kill_internal (signo=11, threadid=<optimized out>) at ./nptl/pthread_kill.c:78
#7  0x00007f036ba5afb2 in __GI_raise (sig=11) at ../sysdeps/posix/raise.c:26
#8  <signal handler called>
#9  0x00007f036baa4e94 in __futex_abstimed_wait_common64 (private=0, cancel=true, abstime=0x0, op=393, expected=0, futex_word=0x55a077236630) at ./nptl/futex-internal.c:57
#10 __futex_abstimed_wait_common (futex_word=futex_word@entry=0x55a077236630, expected=expected@entry=0, clockid=clockid@entry=0, abstime=abstime@entry=0x0, private=private@entry=0, cancel=cancel@entry=true) at ./nptl/futex-internal.c:87
#11 0x00007f036baa4efb in __GI___futex_abstimed_wait_cancelable64 (futex_word=futex_word@entry=0x55a077236630, expected=expected@entry=0, clockid=clockid@entry=0, abstime=abstime@entry=0x0, private=private@entry=0) at ./nptl/futex-internal.c:139
#12 0x00007f036baa7558 in __pthread_cond_wait_common (abstime=0x0, clockid=0, mutex=0x55a0772365e0, cond=0x55a077236608) at ./nptl/pthread_cond_wait.c:503
#13 ___pthread_cond_wait (cond=0x55a077236608, mutex=0x55a0772365e0) at ./nptl/pthread_cond_wait.c:618
#14 0x00007f036c8d1a2b in QWaitCondition::wait(QMutex*, QDeadlineTimer) () from /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libQt5Core.so.5
#15 0x00007f036e20bd58 in ?? () from /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libQt5Quick.so.5
#16 0x00007f036e20d013 in ?? () from /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libQt5Quick.so.5
#17 0x00007f036cf493f5 in QWindow::event(QEvent*) () from /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libQt5Gui.so.5
#18 0x00007f036c162fae in QApplicationPrivate::notify_helper(QObject*, QEvent*) () from /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libQt5Widgets.so.5
#19 0x00007f036cab16f8 in QCoreApplication::notifyInternal2(QObject*, QEvent*) () from /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libQt5Core.so.5
#20 0x00007f036cf3e5cd in QGuiApplicationPrivate::processExposeEvent(QWindowSystemInterfacePrivate::ExposeEvent*) () from /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libQt5Gui.so.5
#21 0x00007f036cf11cac in QWindowSystemInterface::sendWindowSystemEvents(QFlags<QEventLoop::ProcessEventsFlag>) () from /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libQt5Gui.so.5
#22 0x00007f03672fbeca in ?? () from /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libQt5XcbQpa.so.5
#23 0x00007f036a8627a9 in g_main_context_dispatch () from /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libglib-2.0.so.0
#24 0x00007f036a862a38 in ?? () from /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libglib-2.0.so.0
#25 0x00007f036a862acc in g_main_context_iteration () from /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libglib-2.0.so.0
#26 0x00007f036cb09836 in QEventDispatcherGlib::processEvents(QFlags<QEventLoop::ProcessEventsFlag>) () from /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libQt5Core.so.5
#27 0x00007f036cab017b in QEventLoop::exec(QFlags<QEventLoop::ProcessEventsFlag>) () from /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libQt5Core.so.5
#28 0x00007f036cab82d6 in QCoreApplication::exec() () from /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libQt5Core.so.5
#29 0x000055a0757cf2d1 in ?? ()
#30 0x00007f036ba4624a in __libc_start_call_main (main=main@entry=0x55a0757ceef0, argc=argc@entry=2, argv=argv@entry=0x7ffe1d804aa8) at ../sysdeps/nptl/libc_start_call_main.h:58
#31 0x00007f036ba46305 in __libc_start_main_impl (main=0x55a0757ceef0, argc=2, argv=0x7ffe1d804aa8, init=<optimized out>, fini=<optimized out>, rtld_fini=<optimized out>, stack_end=0x7ffe1d804a98) at ../csu/libc-start.c:360
#32 0x000055a0757d07b1 in ?? ()

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Comment 1 Nate Graham 2024-04-09 22:44:47 UTC

*** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of bug 414805 ***