This is just a bit of feedback that I originaly wrote Here: https://www.reddit.com/r/kde/s/pVTmTvK1uv I think that the desktop context menu still can be improved. The "Configure" part of the first two lines are self-explanatory and unnecessary. The same goes for "Paste Clipboard Contents". "Paste" or "Paste Clipboard" is enough.
(In reply to Robin from comment #0) > This is just a bit of feedback that I originaly wrote Here: > https://www.reddit.com/r/kde/s/pVTmTvK1uv > > I think that the desktop context menu still can be improved. The "Configure" > part of the first two lines are self-explanatory and unnecessary. The same > goes for "Paste Clipboard Contents". "Paste" or "Paste Clipboard" is enough. Another option is "Configure Desktop" and "Configure Display" if you want them to be similar length.
I don't think they are completely unnecessary, but I think they are of low importance compared to others, because they are are more rarely used. To some people, yes they may be unnecessary as they never use them, but I don't think there are many people that never use them and a good compromise would be to still have them, yet... I would put them like on Windows, last in the menu: https://static.techspot.com/articles-info/1670/images/2018-08-29-image-5.png But unlike Windows, I would put "Configure display settings..." really last, so it's easier to find it even when somebody uses a non-English language and we need to fix something for them in display settings. Or when we switch from a lower resolution to a 4K resolution on a 4K monitor or TV and everything just becomes too small to read. Or we boot into / connect a 4K monitor or TV that is not near enough to us to read and we want to switch back to a lower resolution or increase the scaling. It happened to me a few time to have to come closer to read after I switched to a 4K resolution. Knowing that it's always last, when you don't understand the language or it's hard to read, it helps to quickly and easy go to the display settings and fix what is bother you.
(In reply to John from comment #2) > I don't think they are completely unnecessary, but I think they are of low > importance compared to others, because they are are more rarely used. To > some people, yes they may be unnecessary as they never use them, but I don't > think there are many people that never use them and a good compromise would > be to still have them, yet... > > I would put them like on Windows, last in the menu: > https://static.techspot.com/articles-info/1670/images/2018-08-29-image-5.png > But unlike Windows, I would put "Configure display settings..." really last, > so it's easier to find it even when somebody uses a non-English language and > we need to fix something for them in display settings. > Or when we switch from a lower resolution to a 4K resolution on a 4K monitor > or TV and everything just becomes too small to read. > Or we boot into / connect a 4K monitor or TV that is not near enough to us > to read and we want to switch back to a lower resolution or increase the > scaling. It happened to me a few time to have to come closer to read after I > switched to a 4K resolution. > > Knowing that it's always last, when you don't understand the language or > it's hard to read, it helps to quickly and easy go to the display settings > and fix what is bother you. I think that you read that a bit wrong, or I wasn't clear. But what I meant is to not remove options, just make the wording a bit more clean. I do agree with the option need to be places either first or last to make sure it is accessable.
(In reply to Robin from comment #1) > Another option is "Configure Desktop" and "Configure Display" if you want > them to be similar length. Or "Customize Desktop" and "Configure Display" to keep them of similar length, but different enough to tell apart easily.
It's our rule that menu items always begin with a verb, since they are actions that will do something. You have to know what thing they will do, and that requires a verb! So shortening them in a way that preserves the word "Configure" is the way to go here In the past we added the "and wallpaper" bit to the end of the first menu item to help people find the wallpaper settings. This was before we had a wallpaper page in System Settings. Maybe that's discoverable enough such that people will find it in System Settings, and we can remove the "and wallpaper" part now.
(In reply to Nate Graham from comment #5) > It's our rule that menu items always begin with a verb, since they are > actions that will do something. You have to know what thing they will do, > and that requires a verb! So shortening them in a way that preserves the > word "Configure" is the way to go here > > In the past we added the "and wallpaper" bit to the end of the first menu > item to help people find the wallpaper settings. This was before we had a > wallpaper page in System Settings. Maybe that's discoverable enough such > that people will find it in System Settings, and we can remove the "and > wallpaper" part now. Someone mentioned that in the Reddit comments, that is why I had to change my mind to "Customize Desktop" and "Configure Display". These two are different enough to not be confused with eachother, self-explaining and also clean enough to be not cause too much clutter.
A possibly relevant merge request was started @ https://invent.kde.org/plasma/plasma-desktop/-/merge_requests/2139
Git commit 82bb3bfc1e9a2425952fbc6d0e5b1bae8c9eb976 by Nate Graham. Committed on 25/03/2024 at 14:21. Pushed by ngraham into branch 'master'. Shorten long action names in desktop toolbox and context menu A lot of these menu items are really long, unnecessarily so. For the ones that take the user to another location rather than performing an action, we can make the menu item's text simply echo the name of the place they'll be taken to. This is what we already do for some other similar menu items that take you to another location, like "Properties". FIXED-IN: 6.1 M +1 -1 appiumtests/desktop/desktoptest.py M +1 -1 containments/desktop/package/contents/ui/main.qml M +1 -1 desktoppackage/contents/configuration/ShellContainmentConfiguration.qml M +2 -2 toolboxes/desktoptoolbox/contents/ui/ToolBoxContent.qml https://invent.kde.org/plasma/plasma-desktop/-/commit/82bb3bfc1e9a2425952fbc6d0e5b1bae8c9eb976