Hi all, The "Configure Audio Devices" Settings in Plasma has a usability Problem, if i look around the settings and i accidentally move the mouse wheel, while mouse-over a "Profile" all my settings are mixed up. There is no way of discarding the changes, also all changes are directly made without asking for confirmation or "save" or "apply" this leads to very weird Audio Issues, also there is no way to reset to default settings. Operating System: Kubuntu 23.10 KDE Plasma Version: 5.27.8 KDE Frameworks Version: 5.110.0 Qt Version: 5.15.10 Graphics Platform: X11
What would you expect to happen here?
(In reply to Harald Sitter from comment #1) > What would you expect to happen here? as mentioned in my text some possibilities would be: - ask before save or apply - disable the mousewheel for the selection boxes (if thats even possible) - a button to revert to the default settings - a button to go back to the last saved settings Just some suggestions, which method to choose is up to the devs ;-)
Unfortunately they are all a bit troublesome: (In reply to mike.burgener from comment #2) > - ask before save or apply That surely would make volume changes and device changes a worse experience. > - disable the mousewheel for the selection boxes (if thats even possible) That would go against expected behavior. All our comboboxes are scrollable, it'd be weird if this one wasn't. So that's not an option. > - a button to revert to the default settings > - a button to go back to the last saved settings What would happen when you plugged in a new device while the settings were open?
(In reply to Harald Sitter from comment #3) > Unfortunately they are all a bit troublesome: > > (In reply to mike.burgener from comment #2) > > - ask before save or apply > > That surely would make volume changes and device changes a worse experience. > > > - disable the mousewheel for the selection boxes (if thats even possible) > > That would go against expected behavior. All our comboboxes are scrollable, > it'd be weird if this one wasn't. So that's not an option. > > > - a button to revert to the default settings > > - a button to go back to the last saved settings > > What would happen when you plugged in a new device while the settings were > open? Hmm, i understand your concerns. Maybe we can have a look on how others do it and learn something from it.
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One this I personally tend to agree with, is that scrolling on sliders and combo boxes is an anti-feature. It prevents lots of stuff from scrolling smoothly throughout our UIs, making it sometimes a frustrating experiense. IMHO keyboard navigation and click[+drag] controls should be enough to be usable and feel solid. (oh wait, QtQuick doesn't have roll-over popups, so click+drag won't apply to comboboxes, and we can't even override it with out qqc2 style because the whole implementation and API is dead-private, oh well)
I don't disagree. The problem is right now as a matter of platform behavior comboboxes are scrollable.
(In reply to Harald Sitter from comment #7) > I don't disagree. The problem is right now as a matter of platform behavior > comboboxes are scrollable. Well, so we will just have to live with it. Maybe we don't close the bug but let it open for review in future if maybe things will change a bit?
It is not a bug though and certainly not one in plasma-pa specifically. Bouncing to breeze for now.
Even if this is not a bug, for anyone stumbling across this page, can anyone tell how I can restore pristine KDE default audio settings by copying over the right (which?) files in ~/.config or elsewhere? (Of course I could reset the whole KDE settings, but I am not really eager to do that as I would have to redo all my customizations.) Concretely, audio settings are OK for another newly created user profile, but not for my in-use user profile, and it would greatly help to know what I have to copy over from the newly created user profile to the in-use user profile for restoring audio. Thanks, Holger