SUMMARY As we can see in the attached screenshot, a useless "Power profile" section is present in the Power Management applet when such feature is not supported. EXPECTED RESULT Hide Power Profile section from Power Management applet when such feature is not supported SOFTWARE/OS VERSIONS Operating System: Arch Linux KDE Plasma Version: 5.90.0 KDE Frameworks Version: 5.246.0 Qt Version: 6.6.1 Graphics Platform: Wayland
Created attachment 163652 [details] screenshot
This was intentional so that when there are no batteries either the applet wouldn't be completely empty and broken looking. But I'm open to removing it if people find it just adds unnecessary noise.
Fwiw, it doesn't *always* appear in this case, only if we have nothing else to show.
(In reply to Natalie Clarius from comment #2) > This was intentional so that when there are no batteries either the applet > wouldn't be completely empty and broken looking. But I'm open to removing it > if people find it just adds unnecessary noise. I think it's good to show it. I'll tell a personal anecdote: When I first started using Neon I noticed games weren't performing very well, and since I didn't know what was wrong, I just assumed Linux drivers weren't as fast as Windows's. One day I had an epiphany and thought: "I can control the power profile on Windows, I wonder if I can do the same on Linux to improve performance". I had to Google a ton and it turned out Neon wasn't shipping the power-profile-daemon package. I installed it and Voilá! It fixed my problem. If Plasma showed power profiles were at least a possibility back then I could've solved the issue much earlier, unfortunately, it didn't and if I hadn't thought about changing the power profile I would still have the same problem until someone remembered to fix Neon. Maybe what could be done is showing an informational message explaining why power profiles are unavailable (eg. "your hardware does not support changing power profiles "or "power-profiles-daemon is not installed"), but I do think it's a good thing to show it even if you cannot interact with it. Also, in the screenshot, the only information available is that power profiles aren't available. If that got removed the applet would just be completely empty and it would look broken.
Is this still an issue with current Plasma 6 releases? Other screenshots of missing power profiles that I've seen (e.g. attachment 173468 [details] from Bug 492859) include a helpful text underneath.
Created attachment 173631 [details] screenshot taken on Arch Linux running Plasma 6.2 beta I see what the screenshot attached to this comment shows. Operating System: Arch Linux KDE Plasma Version: 6.1.90 KDE Frameworks Version: 6.5.0 Qt Version: 6.8.0 Graphics Platform: Wayland
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The fact that it confusingly doesn't show anything is fixed with https://invent.kde.org/plasma/powerdevil/-/merge_requests/430. With this is should show "Not available" again. So far noone else complained about it, so I'm inclined to keep it. > Maybe what could be done is showing an informational message explaining why power profiles are unavailable (eg. "your hardware does not support changing power profiles "or "power-profiles-daemon is not installed" When the daemon is not installed, we already show a corresponding message. We could add a generic "Power profiles are not supported on your device" message when ppd is installed but still no profiles are available, though that would make take up more space and look slightly more depressing.
A possibly relevant merge request was started @ https://invent.kde.org/plasma/powerdevil/-/merge_requests/436
*** Bug 489073 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
(In reply to Natalie Clarius from comment #8) > So far noone else complained about it Correction: One other bug reporter did. Ideally we would have a way to hide it manually, but a config option to hide uninteresting parts of the UI seems a bit like overkill.
https://invent.kde.org/plasma/powerdevil/-/merge_requests/436 is merged now; is there anything else we can feasibly do here? I'm not coming up with any bright ideas.
Not sure there's much else we can do here, yeah.