Bug 474971 - UI broken: menu bar lost, tabs on top
Summary: UI broken: menu bar lost, tabs on top
Status: CLOSED INTENTIONAL
Alias: None
Product: konsole
Classification: Applications
Component: general (show other bugs)
Version: 23.08.1
Platform: Debian unstable Linux
: NOR normal
Target Milestone: ---
Assignee: Konsole Developer
URL:
Keywords:
Depends on:
Blocks:
 
Reported: 2023-09-28 07:46 UTC by arne anka
Modified: 2023-09-28 16:44 UTC (History)
2 users (show)

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2023-09-28 08:28 UTC, tcanabrava
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Description arne anka 2023-09-28 07:46:32 UTC
SUMMARY
***
after update to konsole, the menu bar is lost and the tab bar is suddenly on top.
***


STEPS TO REPRODUCE
1. update konsole
2. start konsole
3. watch totally f'up UI

As incredibly it sounds, accoding to 
https://www.reddit.com/r/kde/comments/12wb9cc/latest_konsole_moved_the_tabs_to_the_top_how_to/
that corruption is intentional!
Apparently someone decided that their private prefernces have to be forced on each and everybody without any respect to their decisions or settings -- to add insult to injury their's neither an informtion popup nor di that someone ever consider that not everybody uses that horrible hamburger menu!
Thus, people are stuck with a wilfully broken UI without easy means to fick that f'up!

I am very afraid of this  authoritarian and patronizing attitude proliferation through all of the KDE ecosystem, and I fail to understand how that level of ruthlessness and disrepect even is possible (although revent developments at Mozilla seem to indicate that this is spreading) -- but if that somebody seriously thinks it is OK to behave badly just because they think they know better than everbody else, what everybody else ought to do, maybe they're better of at Apple's!

Please, fix this ASAP and refrain in future from breaking established standards, and what's more, users' configurations just because some isolated people don't like how others enjoy freedom. 

OBSERVED RESULT
konsole UI broken and w/o research close to unusable

EXPECTED RESULT
UI stays as before, no changes of established and configured UI and functionality w/o prior information and a clear way to fix/change back

SOFTWARE/OS VERSIONS
Windows: 
macOS: 
Linux/KDE Plasma: Debain/SID  6.5.0-1-amd64 (64-bit)
(available in About System)
KDE Plasma Version: 5.27.8
KDE Frameworks Version: 5.107.0
Qt Version: 5.15.10

ADDITIONAL INFORMATION
Comment 1 tcanabrava 2023-09-28 08:28:16 UTC
Created attachment 161926 [details]
attachment-1952185-0.html

I’m not going to work on this because of how this bug is worded, if you
want to make sure things like this don’t happen in the future, you can join
the team as a reviewer.

Let me paste here an excerpt of the license you accepted:

15. Disclaimer of Warranty.

THERE IS NO WARRANTY FOR THE PROGRAM, TO THE EXTENT PERMITTED BY APPLICABLE
LAW. EXCEPT WHEN OTHERWISE STATED IN WRITING THE COPYRIGHT HOLDERS AND/OR
OTHER PARTIES PROVIDE THE PROGRAM “AS IS” WITHOUT WARRANTY OF ANY KIND,
EITHER EXPRESSED OR IMPLIED, INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO, THE IMPLIED
WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY AND FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE. THE
ENTIRE RISK AS TO THE QUALITY AND PERFORMANCE OF THE PROGRAM IS WITH YOU.
SHOULD THE PROGRAM PROVE DEFECTIVE, YOU ASSUME THE COST OF ALL NECESSARY
SERVICING, REPAIR OR CORRECTION.
Best regards,


On Thu, 28 Sep 2023 at 09:46 arne anka <bugzilla_noreply@kde.org> wrote:

> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=474971
>
>             Bug ID: 474971
>            Summary: UI broken: menu bar lost, tabs on top
>     Classification: Applications
>            Product: konsole
>            Version: 23.08.1
>           Platform: Debian unstable
>                 OS: Linux
>             Status: REPORTED
>           Severity: critical
>           Priority: NOR
>          Component: general
>           Assignee: konsole-devel@kde.org
>           Reporter: kde-bugs@ginguppin.de
>   Target Milestone: ---
>
> SUMMARY
> ***
> after update to konsole, the menu bar is lost and the tab bar is suddenly
> on
> top.
> ***
>
>
> STEPS TO REPRODUCE
> 1. update konsole
> 2. start konsole
> 3. watch totally f'up UI
>
> As incredibly it sounds, accoding to
>
> https://www.reddit.com/r/kde/comments/12wb9cc/latest_konsole_moved_the_tabs_to_the_top_how_to/
> that corruption is intentional!
> Apparently someone decided that their private prefernces have to be forced
> on
> each and everybody without any respect to their decisions or settings --
> to add
> insult to injury their's neither an informtion popup nor di that someone
> ever
> consider that not everybody uses that horrible hamburger menu!
> Thus, people are stuck with a wilfully broken UI without easy means to fick
> that f'up!
>
> I am very afraid of this  authoritarian and patronizing attitude
> proliferation
> through all of the KDE ecosystem, and I fail to understand how that level
> of
> ruthlessness and disrepect even is possible (although revent developments
> at
> Mozilla seem to indicate that this is spreading) -- but if that somebody
> seriously thinks it is OK to behave badly just because they think they know
> better than everbody else, what everybody else ought to do, maybe they're
> better of at Apple's!
>
> Please, fix this ASAP and refrain in future from breaking established
> standards, and what's more, users' configurations just because some
> isolated
> people don't like how others enjoy freedom.
>
> OBSERVED RESULT
> konsole UI broken and w/o research close to unusable
>
> EXPECTED RESULT
> UI stays as before, no changes of established and configured UI and
> functionality w/o prior information and a clear way to fix/change back
>
> SOFTWARE/OS VERSIONS
> Windows:
> macOS:
> Linux/KDE Plasma: Debain/SID  6.5.0-1-amd64 (64-bit)
> (available in About System)
> KDE Plasma Version: 5.27.8
> KDE Frameworks Version: 5.107.0
> Qt Version: 5.15.10
>
> ADDITIONAL INFORMATION
>
> --
> You are receiving this mail because:
> You are the assignee for the bug.
Comment 2 Nate Graham 2023-09-28 16:44:17 UTC
Indeed, these were intentional changes. I understand that you're upset about them, but all these changes are optional and you're welcome to go back to the older settings if you preferred them. It'll take you about 10 seconds. Life's too short to get so upset about something so small.

Moreover, the conduct exhibited in this bug report is unacceptable. If you file another bug report with such abusive language, We'll disable your Bugzilla account and ban your IP address. Last warning.