Bug 465992 - Multiple symptoms of possibly one underlying issue after upgrading to 5.27
Summary: Multiple symptoms of possibly one underlying issue after upgrading to 5.27
Status: CLOSED NOT A BUG
Alias: None
Product: plasmashell
Classification: Plasma
Component: general (other bugs)
Version First Reported In: 5.27.0
Platform: Other Linux
: NOR normal
Target Milestone: 1.0
Assignee: Plasma Bugs List
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Reported: 2023-02-18 11:31 UTC by Szczepan Hołyszewski
Modified: 2023-02-18 14:42 UTC (History)
3 users (show)

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Description Szczepan Hołyszewski 2023-02-18 11:31:27 UTC
SUMMARY

Looks like the buggiest Plasma release within living memory.

STEPS TO REPRODUCE
1. Log in

OBSERVED RESULT

 - KDE logo + spinning cog for 30s (everything on NVMe, and a definite regression, looks like something timing out)
 - Black desktop backgrounds
 - Wrong monitor selected as the default; can change in settings (and this restores desktop backgrounds too), but the change doesn't stick after logging out and back in
 - Icons Only Task Manager icons too small

EXPECTED RESULT

 - Fast login
 - No change to desktop backgrounds
 - No change to which monitor is the default 
 - No change to Icons Only Task Manager icon size

SOFTWARE/OS VERSIONS

Operating System: Arch Linux 
KDE Plasma Version: 5.27.0
KDE Frameworks Version: 5.103.0
Qt Version: 5.15.8
Kernel Version: 6.1.12-arch1-1 (64-bit)
Graphics Platform: X11
Processors: 12 × Intel® Core™ i7-8700 CPU @ 3.20GHz
Memory: 31.2 GiB of RAM
Graphics Processor: Mesa Intel® UHD Graphics 630
Manufacturer: Micro-Star International Co., Ltd.
Product Name: MS-7B24
System Version: 2.0
Comment 2 Szczepan Hołyszewski 2023-02-18 12:33:50 UTC
(In reply to Nicolas Fella from comment #1)
> Please read https://community.kde.org/Get_Involved/Issue_Reporting before
> reporting further bugs.

TL;DR: This Is Different.

Long version: I know how to report regular bugs, and I have a record on this bugtracker to prove it. This is not a regular bug, therefore this bug report is not a regular bug report. This is a situation where a user logs in to a newly updated desktop and is met with an avalanche of glitches, none of which were present before the update. Nothing remotely like this has happened in my 15+ years with KDE. This is a never before seen situation that the document you quoted doesn't cover?

> https://community.kde.org/Get_Involved/Issue_Reporting#Remember_your_manners

I fail to find in that document an interdiction against stating facts.

> https://community.kde.org/Get_Involved/
> Issue_Reporting#Multiple_issues_in_a_single_Bugzilla_ticket

I am reporting multiple _symptoms_ that manifested all at once as a result of a single update. When something like that happens, it is quite possible that all the symptoms are different manifestation of a single bug, but I am not able to ascertain whether that's the case, so the next best thing I can do is report
Comment 3 Szczepan Hołyszewski 2023-02-18 12:37:20 UTC
[posted prematurely, because saving the edited title apparently submits the comment too]

(In reply to Nicolas Fella from comment #1)
> Please read https://community.kde.org/Get_Involved/Issue_Reporting before
> reporting further bugs.

TL;DR: This Is Different.

Long version: I know how to report regular bugs, and I have a record on this bugtracker to prove it. This is not a regular bug, therefore this bug report is not a regular bug report. This is a situation where a user logs in to a newly updated desktop and is met with an avalanche of glitches, none of which were present before the update. Nothing remotely like this has happened in my 15+ years with KDE. This is a never before seen situation that the document you quoted doesn't cover?

> https://community.kde.org/Get_Involved/Issue_Reporting#Remember_your_manners

I fail to find in that document an interdiction against stating facts.

> https://community.kde.org/Get_Involved/
> Issue_Reporting#Multiple_issues_in_a_single_Bugzilla_ticket

I am reporting multiple _symptoms_ that manifested all at once as a result of a single update. When something like that happens, it is quite possible that all the symptoms are different manifestation of a single bug, but I am not able to ascertain whether that's the case, so the next best thing I can do is report the symptoms, and YES report them together, because their correlation and co-occurrence may actually be something that a programmer debugging the issue might want to know.
Comment 4 Szczepan Hołyszewski 2023-02-18 12:50:34 UTC
I agreee that this is not a bug. It is a disaster. And this is not a bug report, it is a disaster report. Unfortunately there is no separate disasters tracker available at disasters.kde.org, so all I can do is report it here. There is also no official guideline document on reporting disasters, so the report is kind of free-form.
Comment 5 Nate Graham 2023-02-18 14:42:06 UTC
Bug reports need to be about one specific actionable issue. This is not an actionable issue as it reports four different, unrelated issues.

Please submit four bug reports, one per issue, as each of these issues will have a different root causes.

And in each of those bug reports, please try your best to be calm and respectful, so we can avoid arguments and hurt feelings, and also to maximize the change that developers feel like helping out.

Thanks!