Bug 460690 - Time Remapping: general thoughts/critic UI/UX
Summary: Time Remapping: general thoughts/critic UI/UX
Status: REPORTED
Alias: None
Product: kdenlive
Classification: Applications
Component: User Interface & Miscellaneous (other bugs)
Version First Reported In: 22.08.1
Platform: Other Microsoft Windows
: NOR normal
Target Milestone: ---
Assignee: Jean-Baptiste Mardelle
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Reported: 2022-10-19 01:23 UTC by Veps
Modified: 2022-10-19 01:23 UTC (History)
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Description Veps 2022-10-19 01:23:03 UTC
==== SUMMARY
I'll try to keep it short (and skip also the natural appreciation part for all your work, which I do but...): I find the UI of the "Time Remapping" alias Speed Ramp ***EXTREMLY*** not only un-intuitive (bad UX) but even limiting in (possible) functionality .

==== STEPS TO REPRODUCE
Try to figure out "Time Remap" without a tutorial -- without being the dev/creator of the UI/UX
(Off-Topic but doesn't enhance the situation: while at the same time it's constantly crashing on you, see #437113).
Really, I mean it. Put your uninformed uncle/cousin/whoever in front of this, tell him: here is this new feature in kdenlive, please make me this: https://youtu.be/W1SbGOl9YEc?t=308)

==== OBSERVED RESULT
A)  Under specific circumstances extends the clip (probably it's a feature but regarding UX completely unexpected and unintended)
B) With a lot of "ramps" granularity/accuracy gets lost due to weird scaling of the "Time-Ramp"-UI
  B2) Under certain circumstances cannot click handles in the """graph""" due to overlapping/aids of the UI
C) Not even sure if this is intended but you can even reverse time. -- Not anytime soon I would have realised that! (Though the feature at all integrated here really sounds great.) [2]

==== EXPECTED RESULT
A graph where I could even have control over the kind/speed/slope of the ramp/function (not only "please magically cramp 2 minutes into 1 minute for me")

==== ADDITIONAL INFORMATION
Maybe I'm just ignored but can the master mind behind the UI please explain the benefits of the current "fancy" UI over a regular graph/function which "everybody", I would claim, with a descent educational background would expect and could grasp in an instant.
AGAIN: I really appreciate your work and *even* a new/different approach over the "classic" one but only if it brings benefits. The documentation for this feature is a one-liner which literally just and only states: "The new Time Remap feature allows to keyframe the speed of a clip."[1] (Since then a whole *major* release has passed.)

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[1] https://docs.kdenlive.org/de/effects_and_compositions/effects.html#time-remapping-speed-ramps
[2] https://youtu.be/weY57YFPD-g?t=222