Bug 456431 - [FEATURE REQUEST] Timestamp feature
Summary: [FEATURE REQUEST] Timestamp feature
Status: REPORTED
Alias: None
Product: Haruna
Classification: Applications
Component: generic (show other bugs)
Version: unspecified
Platform: Kubuntu Linux
: NOR normal
Target Milestone: ---
Assignee: george fb
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Reported: 2022-07-07 06:22 UTC by Shifras
Modified: 2022-11-21 14:29 UTC (History)
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Description Shifras 2022-07-07 06:22:25 UTC
SUMMARY
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I miss a timestamp feature to take notes in a playlist to quickly jump to a selected video at selected time. Now i do it in a separate file manually. Feature would look like youtube timestamp feature on youtube. 
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EXPECTED RESULT
simmilar to this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfEdhlBuxCU

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ADDITIONAL INFORMATION
Comment 1 george fb 2022-11-21 08:25:30 UTC
Do you mean creating the chapters for a video or showing existing chapters as a playlist?
Comment 2 Shifras 2022-11-21 08:35:14 UTC
(In reply to george fb from comment #1)
> Do you mean creating the chapters for a video or showing existing chapters
> as a playlist?

If right now you have a playlist of videos folder content on the right side of a preview window, let's say the timestamps would expand from a selected video on that playlist to the side with a list of active (click active) list of timestamps pre-entered earlier. Add timestamp feat i imagine could be set simply right-clicking on a play window with tooltip selection, or from a shortcut. This is only my suggestion how it could look, and be implemented.
Comment 3 george fb 2022-11-21 08:52:34 UTC
(In reply to Shifras from comment #2)
> If right now you have a playlist of videos folder content on the right side
> of a preview window, let's say the timestamps would expand from a selected
> video on that playlist to the side with a list of active (click active) list
> of timestamps pre-entered earlier.

Do you mean in Haruna's playlist each item should have a button that loads its chapters/timestamps somewhere in the same playlist?
If yes, then I won't add this. The chapters are available in the seek bar and you can right click it to get them in a menu.
Comment 4 Shifras 2022-11-21 10:21:47 UTC
(In reply to george fb from comment #3)
> (In reply to Shifras from comment #2)
> > If right now you have a playlist of videos folder content on the right side
> > of a preview window, let's say the timestamps would expand from a selected
> > video on that playlist to the side with a list of active (click active) list
> > of timestamps pre-entered earlier.
> 
> Do you mean in Haruna's playlist each item should have a button that loads
> its chapters/timestamps somewhere in the same playlist?
> If yes, then I won't add this. The chapters are available in the seek bar
> and you can right click it to get them in a menu.

I don't get the concept  of "chapter". How to add it, how to write a comment on that timestamp/chapter and so on. I can only see there are "next chapter" and "previous chapter", but i dont find how to edit them or set a comment/description/content of a chapter.
Comment 5 Shifras 2022-11-21 10:27:28 UTC
(In reply to george fb from comment #1)
> Do you mean creating the chapters for a video or showing existing chapters
> as a playlist?

I there would be a playlist of a "chapter" with a possible textarea where you can put your note, i guess it would be the thing requested, but not sure.
Comment 6 george fb 2022-11-21 12:21:05 UTC
(In reply to Shifras from comment #4)
> I don't get the concept  of "chapter". How to add it, how to write a comment
> on that timestamp/chapter and so on. I can only see there are "next chapter"
> and "previous chapter", but i dont find how to edit them or set a
> comment/description/content of a chapter.

"next chapter" and "previous chapter" are actions to seek to the next/previous chapters. There is no chapter editing available and I don't think its something a player should do.
Comment 7 Shifras 2022-11-21 12:46:09 UTC
(In reply to george fb from comment #3)
> (In reply to Shifras from comment #2)
> > If right now you have a playlist of videos folder content on the right side
> > of a preview window, let's say the timestamps would expand from a selected
> > video on that playlist to the side with a list of active (click active) list
> > of timestamps pre-entered earlier.
> 
> Do you mean in Haruna's playlist each item should have a button that loads
> its chapters/timestamps somewhere in the same playlist?
> If yes, then I won't add this. The chapters are available in the seek bar
> and you can right click it to get them in a menu.

I don't get the concept  of "chapter". How to add it, how to write a comment on that timestamp/chapter and so on. I can only see there are "next chapter" and "previous chapter", but i dont find how to edit them or set a comment/description/content of a chapter.(In reply to george fb from comment #6)
> (In reply to Shifras from comment #4)
> > I don't get the concept  of "chapter". How to add it, how to write a comment
> > on that timestamp/chapter and so on. I can only see there are "next chapter"
> > and "previous chapter", but i dont find how to edit them or set a
> > comment/description/content of a chapter.
> 
> "next chapter" and "previous chapter" are actions to seek to the
> next/previous chapters. There is no chapter editing available and I don't
> think its something a player should do.

That's why this request is called "Timestamp" and not "Chapter" feature. To be able to create markup timestamps for a current video to comment a note of what this particular video timestamp is about. It is actually not very important how it is going to be implemented. Can be playlist, can be in a tooltip. Creator of the program should know better :)
Comment 8 george fb 2022-11-21 13:06:11 UTC
Timestamp/chapter same shit, it alows you jump to a specific time in the video. If you mean something else you have to explain it better.
Comment 9 Shifras 2022-11-21 13:11:55 UTC
(In reply to george fb from comment #8)
> Timestamp/chapter same shit, it alows you jump to a specific time in the
> video. If you mean something else you have to explain it better.

Ok. So chapters are the thing that looks simillar of what i think should do the trick, only i cannot find any info how to create/what format to use for a chapter file haruna could recognize locally on a hard drive ( not on youtube ) and display in seek bar with a tooltip. If you could share /link chapter file requirements player can understand i would appreciate that.
Comment 10 george fb 2022-11-21 13:41:15 UTC
MKVToolNix can create chapter files, but to use them you have to embed then in the video, MKVToolNix can do that too.
Comment 11 Shifras 2022-11-21 13:54:46 UTC
Embedding a file means modifying a file. That sounds too hardcore and complicated. Can it be implemented in a way at least  kinda .vtt files for subtitles are implemented?.xml format maybe? or any other reasonable separate file? So You just put them in the same directory and chapters are loaded to the seek bar if the option for that is set..? Or some sort of custom file format where you have <video name>_<timestamp_label> = <time> and <timestamp_label> = "texted comment". And you have that single file in a directory if that file contains video name that chapter is loaded on that particular video at that particular time with that particular comment? Dunno, maybe i think too complicated, but that's how i imagine it now. So basically you make that file yourself for a single/multiple videos in that directory, ang haruna can interpret it to create chapter for each of that video.
Comment 12 george fb 2022-11-21 14:22:31 UTC
If you don't care that it creates a new file (original file is not changed) it's not that hard and doesn't take a lot of time (except maybe creating the chapters).

As for using those files in Haruna I'm not against, though if and when it will be added I don't know.
Comment 13 Shifras 2022-11-21 14:29:18 UTC
(In reply to george fb from comment #12)
> If you don't care that it creates a new file (original file is not changed)
> it's not that hard and doesn't take a lot of time (except maybe creating the
> chapters).
> 
> As for using those files in Haruna I'm not against, though if and when it
> will be added I don't know.

Modifying file is too much hardcore... Creating a chapter file is perfect. If that chapter file could scope that directory ( and/or maybe its subdirectories ) of videos where these videos may be located, and haruna would create chapters off of that file for these videos, it would be perfect solution i think.

This is a request, it is up to you to implement/not implement them and when. Thank you George.