The "whole row selection" now makes tooltips of files very annoying. I just want to see the details (in a tooltip) when I actually point at a file name. Now it's impossible to NOT point at something.
What exactly is the problem if the tooltip appears when you hover any part of the row? *why* is it annoying? Is it because it covers up something else that you would want to look at or click on?
The tooltip is huge - sometimes about a quarter of the screen, so it covers a lot of file names just below the row I'm currently hovering over. Try finding a file name in a list of files, which you can't see, since it's covered.
I had a feeling it was going to be something like that. That suggests that the issue is the tooltip's positioning, not its activation conditions. Because it could be positioned wrong and cover filenames even with the old style too. If we change its positioning so that it never covers filenames, then we fix the bug universally.
No, it's not only about the position. Since the tooltip is large, it's annoying still if it pops up somewhere else. I don't like when things are thrown at me unintentionally. When I do like to see details, then, and only then, I know what I want and hover above the file name.
If the tooltip is large and annoying wherever it pops up, that implies that you shouldn't have tooltips turned on (it's optional and off by default), or that the design of the tooltip needs to be re-done to be more compact and less annoying.
You really try to craft it in the way so that the current behavior is good, right? I tell you that I do want tooltips, but only in the way tooltips are supposed to work: show them when the user hovers over what he is interested in. This is currently not how it works, therefore the bug entry. If you don't want to change that, then close the bug
With the selection of files on the whole line the tooltips are constantly activated. I can not get to files under the tooltips. I had to turn off tooltips which in the past were very useful to me. This is a regression of useability. The whole row selection has several severe usability issues. The tooltips problem is just one. Some of the other problems are that unselecting files has become much more tedious. Instead of having all the space of the rest of the line available to unselect I now have to maneuver to a very small area in the beginning of the line, which is now also lost filename space. Another major problem with the whole line selection is that cut and paste has become much more tedious, I have several occurences of not even being able to. The versions of dolphin with hole line selection is much less productive. I compiled an older version.
I agree that the area in which tooltips show up in details view mode has become too large now to the point that they pop up frequently when a user might not be interested in seeing the tooltip. >when I actually point at a file name. We will still want to show the tooltip when someones points at the file's icon. This would be confusing otherwise because generally tooltips do appear when an item is hovered. >Another major problem with the whole line selection is that cut and >paste has become much more tedious, I have several occurences of >not even being able to. This has probably been fixed already by https://invent.kde.org/system/dolphin/-/commit/b2f18e411a929665257dad8c6a51f3e2e617cee5.
(In reply to Martin Koller from comment #6) > I tell you that I do want tooltips, but only in the way tooltips are > supposed to work: show them when the user > hovers over what he is interested in. > This is currently not how it works, therefore the bug entry. I agree with Martin, the tooltips should appear only when the user hover over what he is interested, in this case the icon and the filename
*** Bug 458982 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
I agree that the way tooltips cover a big area of the screen is a regression of useability to such an extent that it is impossibile to look at other items in the file list without having to move the pointer out of the folder pane. Tooltips should be much less intrusive and appear only when hovering over the filename and not on the whole row if that is feasable. If I want to have full information then I activate the information pane with F11. Displaying the same information on the tooltips is a duplicate of a functionality that masks some usability weakness. I still have to make sure that tooltips are disabled on dolphin 24.02.1.
In addition, the tooltip could allow you to click "through" it to dismiss it. Often I'm moving the mouse to interact with an adjacent file, but the tooltip stubbornly stays in the way. Allowing the user to click through it and reach the file it's obscuring would be useful. That, and maybe when the cursor leaves the "hitbox" of the file the tooltip was spawned for, it should be dismissed. These would make tooltips less annoying, as I find them to be useful/annoying in equal measure currently.
(In reply to goo from comment #11) > Tooltips should […] appear only when hovering over > the filename and not on the whole row if that is feasable. I agree that this is the behaviour that should be implemented, and it is definitely feasible.
I fully agree to all the recent comments. Especially if the Dolphin window is rather large (e.g. when using a projector with small resolution), it can be very difficult to work with files, since everywhere in Dolphin some tooltip will pop up and not easily go away.