Bug 454431 - plasma 5.24.90, automatic startup, apps launched but disappear
Summary: plasma 5.24.90, automatic startup, apps launched but disappear
Status: RESOLVED FIXED
Alias: None
Product: plasmashell
Classification: Plasma
Component: Startup process (show other bugs)
Version: 5.24.90
Platform: Other Linux
: NOR normal
Target Milestone: 1.0
Assignee: Plasma Bugs List
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Reported: 2022-05-26 10:25 UTC by Philippe ROUBACH
Modified: 2022-07-06 16:56 UTC (History)
3 users (show)

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Attachments
automatic start (100.64 KB, image/png)
2022-05-26 11:54 UTC, Philippe ROUBACH
Details
journal after reboot (534.49 KB, text/x-log)
2022-06-18 09:04 UTC, Philippe ROUBACH
Details
the script to launch facebook chrome web app (425 bytes, application/x-shellscript)
2022-06-18 09:05 UTC, Philippe ROUBACH
Details

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Description Philippe ROUBACH 2022-05-26 10:25:20 UTC
SUMMARY

STEPS TO REPRODUCE
1. open a kde session
2. 
3. 

OBSERVED RESULT

I see all the apps of "automatic start" as Skype and Chrome web apps as "messages" are launched.
They are not in the control panel.
They are not in "system monitor".
I must manually start all these apps.

EXPECTED RESULT

"automatic start" runs well

SOFTWARE/OS VERSIONS
Windows: 
macOS: 
Linux/KDE Plasma: 
(available in About System)
KDE Plasma Version: 5.24.90
KDE Frameworks Version: 5.94.0
Qt Version: 5.15.2

ADDITIONAL INFORMATION

kde gears 22.04.1
Comment 1 Bacteria 2022-05-26 11:32:26 UTC
I use auto start apps and they work fine for me both on X11 and Wayland. 

1) How are you adding these startup apps?
2) Are you using X11 or wayland? (Available in System Settings > About this System)
3) Do apps other than web apps work?
Comment 2 Philippe ROUBACH 2022-05-26 11:42:12 UTC
1) How are you adding these startup apps?
go to "kde settings" > "work space" > "start and stop" > "automatic start"
add connexion script to launch any Chrome web app.
Skype settings adds Skype in "Applications"

2) Are you using X11 or wayland? (Available in System Settings > About this System)

X11

3) Do apps other than web apps work?

Skype as the others is launched then disappears.

If I launched manually any app also skype and the script to launch web app then no problem.

I wonder if this bug is linked to this bug https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=454105
Comment 3 Philippe ROUBACH 2022-05-26 11:54:04 UTC
Created attachment 149229 [details]
automatic start
Comment 4 Bacteria 2022-05-26 17:30:34 UTC
> I wonder if this bug is linked to this bug
> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=454105

Unlikely. But are the apps you are auto starting also added to the panel?
Comment 5 Philippe ROUBACH 2022-05-26 20:37:47 UTC
are the apps you are auto starting also added to the panel?

No.
Comment 6 Nate Graham 2022-05-27 14:03:43 UTC
Is this a regression from a prior version? Did it work in Plasma 5.24?
Comment 7 Philippe ROUBACH 2022-05-27 14:08:04 UTC
Yes it is a regression, no problem with 5.24.5
Comment 8 Philippe ROUBACH 2022-05-29 06:46:49 UTC
I tried to clean the kde session by not restoring the previous session and deleting all in automatic startup then adding again all my login scripts to launchthe web apps. All fails: Skype is not launched (I don't see the icon in the systray even briefly) and the web app are launched and I see their icon briefly in the task board then they disappear.
Comment 9 Philippe ROUBACH 2022-05-29 06:47:53 UTC
I wonder if Skype and the login scripts are treated as logout scripts.
Comment 10 Philippe ROUBACH 2022-05-29 06:50:34 UTC
Is there any way to clean and  initialize again all about the kde session for example by deleting all files about kde session ?
Comment 11 Philippe ROUBACH 2022-05-29 07:38:12 UTC
Same problem with another user.
Comment 12 Bacteria 2022-05-29 18:23:35 UTC
Can you try another app? Like Dolphin for example, something that isn't chromium or electron.
Comment 13 Philippe ROUBACH 2022-05-29 21:51:12 UTC
automatic start runs well with "dolphin" !
Comment 14 Philippe ROUBACH 2022-05-29 22:03:53 UTC
Firefox, Chrome, Libreoffice writer, Okular are not launched.
Comment 15 Philippe ROUBACH 2022-05-29 22:21:10 UTC
JOSM Map Editor
kdocker
digikam
kate
spectacle
VLC

are not launched.
Comment 16 Philippe ROUBACH 2022-06-14 16:46:32 UTC
kde gears 22.04.2
plasma 5.25.0
kde frameworks 5.95.0

Problem still there
Comment 17 David Edmundson 2022-06-17 08:40:28 UTC
Can I have output of "journalctl --user -b" just after a reboot with a login that failed to autostart something
Comment 18 Philippe ROUBACH 2022-06-17 09:51:25 UTC
x@localhost:~> sudo journalctl --user -b
No journal files were found.
-- No entries --

@localhost:~> journalctl --user -b
Hint: You are currently not seeing messages from the system.
      Users in the 'systemd-journal' group can see all messages. Pass -q to
      turn off this notice.
No journal files were opened due to insufficient permissions.
Comment 19 Philippe ROUBACH 2022-06-18 09:04:56 UTC
Created attachment 149879 [details]
journal after reboot

This time only skype and script to launch Chrome web app Facebook in the list of automatic startup.

I send you the journal just after reboot and opening a kde session that i got with
sudo journalctl -b > journal.log
Comment 20 Philippe ROUBACH 2022-06-18 09:05:46 UTC
Created attachment 149880 [details]
the script to launch facebook chrome web app
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Comment 22 Philippe ROUBACH 2022-07-03 07:33:11 UTC
No problem with Tumbleweed.
Comment 23 Nate Graham 2022-07-05 13:58:03 UTC
So it's fixed now for you?
Comment 24 Philippe ROUBACH 2022-07-05 14:14:04 UTC
Yes, it's fixed for me because I switched to Tumbleweed.
Comment 25 Nate Graham 2022-07-05 14:21:12 UTC
Got it. That suggests that the issue was fixed in a software update. Thanks for following up!
Comment 26 Philippe ROUBACH 2022-07-06 16:56:53 UTC
Not fixed in Argon 15.3

plasma 5.25.2
kde framework 5.95.0
qt 5.15.5
KDE Gears 22.04.2