Created attachment 144501 [details] Audio feedback is enabled in settings, but it doesn't seem to affect anything SUMMARY STEPS TO REPRODUCE 1. Ensure that playing audio feedback for changes to the audio volume is enabled (see the attached image) 2. Use the mousewheel to scroll while hovering over the volume tray icon 3. Observe that the volume has changed (an on-screen dialog appears for a while to indicate that) 4. Observe that no sound is played to indicate what the new volume sounds like OBSERVED RESULT The volume changes, but no sound is played to indicate that. SOFTWARE/OS VERSIONS Linux/KDE Plasma: (available in About System) KDE Plasma Version: 5.23.4 KDE Frameworks Version: 5.88.0 Qt Version: 5.15.2
Are Notification sounds muted on the Audio page in System Settings?
Hey, Nate! Thanks for all the work you do on making KDE better, by the way! You're right - Notifications are muted ("Do not disturb" is on). I'd rather not be spammed by various chat clients, etc., wishing to distract me. Still, it seems odd that whether audio feedback is played or suppressed would be influenced by the Notification system's settings. It doesn't sound right to me. I recently had someone else tell me about this regression. Checking on my system, I found that it also doesn't work for me. It seems like we both failed to figure out what the actual reason is ("Do not disturb" being on). If it's intentional, why not suppress visual feedback as well? Or maybe visual feedback "does not disturb" that much? If audio feedback is to remain influenced by Notification settings, the Audio Volume Settings panel should at least indicate that, I guess.
You're very welcome! I'm afraid the volume feedback sound is implemented as a "notification" sound. IIRC this is a FreeDesktop thing and not something we control in KDE. So they have to be bound together. If you'd prefer not to see so many notifications, you might want to make use of the "Do Not Disturb" feature in the Notifications applet during times when you want peace and quiet. You can also turn off sounds for individual notifications that are bothering you.
I understand the reasoning. It sounds like a leaky abstraction of some sort - an implementation detail that causes undesired consequences. To me, it sounds like a perfectly valid use-case to not want to see notification popups (especially from all these annoying 3rd party applications that fight to destroy your focus), but still be able to hear system sounds. Maybe I'm misunderstanding the Notifications system though. That bell icon that it in the tray does make it sound like it would control sounds as well. One might think it's only about sounds related to notification popups though, not to anything else. If it muted VLC's sound, it would certainly be overstepping, wouldn't it? Muting the sound applet's feedback sound (which is explicitly enabled for me) sounds pretty much the same.
Technically speaking the "Notification sound" setting affects all audio streams that are using the "event" role which currently includes the volume feedback. However there is no technical reason why the volume feedback has to use the event role. It's a trivial thing to change assuming that we agree that we want this
No objection to changing it if there is no technical blocker.
Setting to confirmed since there's general agreement that this could be implemented