Bug 444451 - Dropdown options don't have "Unlock and open"
Summary: Dropdown options don't have "Unlock and open"
Status: RESOLVED INTENTIONAL
Alias: None
Product: Plasma Vault
Classification: Unmaintained
Component: general (other bugs)
Version First Reported In: unspecified
Platform: Other Linux
: NOR normal
Target Milestone: ---
Assignee: Ivan Čukić
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Reported: 2021-10-26 20:54 UTC by David
Modified: 2021-10-28 18:19 UTC (History)
1 user (show)

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vault_mouse_trajectory (493.66 KB, image/gif)
2021-10-28 17:24 UTC, David
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Description David 2021-10-26 20:54:27 UTC
SUMMARY
If I have a vault, click the systray icon, and click the vault, it will offer me a drop-down list with options. Those options to not include "Unlock and Open", which is only available at the right side.

STEPS TO REPRODUCE
1. Create a vault and lock it.
2. Click the vault icon in the system tray, and click the vault.
3. Check the options in the drop-down.

OBSERVED RESULT
The drop-down has no "Unlock and Open".

EXPECTED RESULT
The drop-down should have "Unlock and Open" as an additional option to "Unlock", and this "Unlock and Open" should be the first choice in the menu, just like it is for e.g. USB drivers which have the same options in the drop-down as in the right button.

SOFTWARE/OS VERSIONS
Operating System: Debian GNU/Linux
KDE Plasma Version: 5.23.0
KDE Frameworks Version: 5.86.0
Qt Version: 5.15.2
Kernel Version: 5.14.0-3-amd64 (64-bit)
Graphics Platform: X11
Processors: 16 × AMD Ryzen 7 2700 Eight-Core Processor
Memory: 15.5 GiB of RAM
Graphics Processor: AMD VEGA10

ADDITIONAL INFORMATION
Comment 1 Nate Graham 2021-10-28 14:13:17 UTC
It doesn't need to be in the dropdown; the main action which is always visible is now "unlock and open". If the dropdown had a duplicate copy of whatever action was the main one, that would be redundant, and we would rightfully get bug reports about it. :)
Comment 2 David 2021-10-28 14:14:52 UTC
(In reply to Nate Graham from comment #1)
> It doesn't need to be in the dropdown; the main action which is always
> visible is now "unlock and open". If the dropdown had a duplicate copy of
> whatever action was the main one, that would be redundant, and we would
> rightfully get bug reports about it. :)

But other things do have a redundant copy in the drop down (which IMO is easier to click), such as USB storage devices.
Comment 3 Nate Graham 2021-10-28 17:00:06 UTC
> But other things do have a redundant copy in the drop down, such as USB storage devices
Cannot reproduce. Can you attach a screenshot?

> which IMO is easier to click
This cannot possibly be true. The button shown on the list item requires one click, because it's always visible; the buttons in the dropdown necessarily require two clicks--one to show the dropdown, another to click on it.
Comment 4 David 2021-10-28 17:10:30 UTC
(In reply to Nate Graham from comment #3)
> > But other things do have a redundant copy in the drop down, such as USB storage devices
> Cannot reproduce. Can you attach a screenshot?
> 
> > which IMO is easier to click
> This cannot possibly be true. The button shown on the list item requires one
> click, because it's always visible; the buttons in the dropdown necessarily
> require two clicks--one to show the dropdown, another to click on it.

The button is at the right side, which is quite distant from the vault's name and icon. The dropdown shows at the left, right where the vault's name and icon are placed. I usually select the vault that I want by visually locating it's name.
Comment 5 David 2021-10-28 17:12:27 UTC
(In reply to Nate Graham from comment #3)
> > But other things do have a redundant copy in the drop down, such as USB storage devices
> Cannot reproduce. Can you attach a screenshot?

My bad, this was also removed, and IMO it was useful too.
Comment 6 David 2021-10-28 17:24:20 UTC
Created attachment 142971 [details]
vault_mouse_trajectory

And here's a video so that you can verify that the drop-down is a shorter trajectory and more visually intuitive compared to the right button if you have more than 1 vault.
Comment 7 Nate Graham 2021-10-28 17:50:18 UTC
You don't need to click on a vault's list item to select it first. You can just click the "Unlock and open" button for whichever vault you want to open, which is even faster and more direct than what you are doing in that video.
Comment 8 David 2021-10-28 18:05:51 UTC
(In reply to Nate Graham from comment #7)
> You don't need to click on a vault's list item to select it first. You can
> just click the "Unlock and open" button for whichever vault you want to
> open, which is even faster and more direct than what you are doing in that
> video.

I realize one doesn't need to click the vault to then click the right-side button, but the point is: one finds a vault by looking at its name. If you are to open a vault, you must first locate it, and the natural way of doing it is by following the left side. Once you have visually located it, you then proceed to open it, and that implies a large jump to the right side and making sure that your movement still aligns with the vault's space as you move the mouse there (either that, or a visual inspection as you move the mouse starting from the right side that the item you're pointing at is the correct one, for which you need to verify on the left side).

I'm pretty sure that if you setup 3 or more vaults or USB drives and ask random people to open the one in the middle, they would gravitate towards either the left-click menu or an awkward move to the right like in the video.

If you are browsing a folder list structure in dolphin or krusader for example, you don't put the 'expand' or 'open' button at the right, you expect it to be close to the start of the name rather than make the user first locate the folder and then move the pointer to the right across the horizontal space that contains the folder.
Comment 9 Nate Graham 2021-10-28 18:19:45 UTC
Sorry you don't like the design. I think it is fine the way it is. Moving your eyes an inch to the right doesn't seem like a huge problem, and if we duplictaed the default action in the popup, we would certainly get complaints about the redundancy. If we *removed* the default action and put everything in the popup, we would get complaints about discoverability and extra required clicks. Design is a compromise between use cases, and I don't think there is any way we can change this to accommodate your preferences without regressing things for everyone else.