Created attachment 133529 [details] bookmark missing in dolphins menubar SUMMARY KDE applications like Konsole and Kate both has direct access to "Bookmarks" in the Menubar, with the hotkey ALT+B Dolphin does not. Dolphin is inconsistent, with the other application and forces the user to go to "Go > Bookmarks". This is totally stupid :D. Why do we need to both be inconsistent and waste another hotkey, to access the same feature? >> Can we move the "Bookmarks" up in the Menubar? << That will make it much faster to use keyboard shortcuts in Dolphin. Just ALT+B, thats it. It will be better because, after you click Alt+B, then you can click Alt+Accelerator, to go directly to the Bookmark location. Try it in Kate, its really fast! Please move the Bookmark to the Mainmenu, it will be the fastest way to jump to specific folder location, and it will be more consistent. See attached image. OBSERVED RESULT Go > Bookmarks EXPECTED RESULT Menubar > Bookmarks Linux/KDE Plasma: Kubuntu/Plasma
Created attachment 133530 [details] Example - Fast navigation in Kate
Fair enough. The original design intention here was to not confuse people unnecessarily because Bookmarks kind of duplicative of the Places Panel's functionality. But perhaps consistency is more important.
The question is why Bookmarks is hidden and Places has its own Panel. Apparently the team responsible is chosing simplicity over functionality. In Bookmarks you can organise in a folder hierarchy, in Places not. Bookmarks aim at what you could call power users that need losts of shortcuts that are organised according to task or location. Do you want to punish power users? In the filemanager profile of Konquerer both "Places" and bookmarks had their own Panel. I would be in favour of adding a bookmark Panel, by default hidden.
I agree that Bookmarks should have its own top-level entry in the menu. If you use this feature, you will use it very frequently, so it has to be accessible quickly with Alt+B. Burying it within the "Go" menu requires an additional click each time, which slows down power users. Since the menu bar is now hidden by default in any case, an additional entry there shouldn't confuse users too much any longer.
Yeah, that makes sense.
Maybe I need to change my opinion. I now think that the menu bar is not suitable as the (only) place for features that you need to access very frequently. You would have to keep the menubar visible at all times for quick access, which is not ideal (I would personally like to keep the menubar hidden AND effectively use the bookmarks feature). Instead, I think that the toolbar is the best place for such frequently used features. It is easy to go to "Configure toolbars" and add the "Bookmarks" entry manually. "Bookmarks" is a feature for power users, and these people can be expected to add the tool bar icon by themselves. The toolbar seems to be the natural solution to me. A downside is that the "Bookmarks" entry, if you add it to the toolbar, does not have a shortcut associated with it, and I am unable to define one. This seems to be a missing feature that should be easy to add. There still is the valid argument of consistency with other apps like Konsole and Kate. People might ask "why to I have to use the toolbar here, but the menu in the other apps for the same feature?". However, Dolphin is different in that the menu bar is hidden by default (and thus, "Alt" + modifier does not work by default in any case). If a "Bookmarks" entry is to appear in the menu bar for the sake of consistency, then, following the same argument, there should also be a separate "Sessions" menu if that feature is implemented some point in the future (since Kate has a separate menu entry for this as well). The menu bar may thus become quite complicated, cluttered with options that most users never use – too much for such a basic application like Dolphin, not simple by default anymore.
Ugh, now Kate has copied this regression too. Should I open a separate bug?
Yes please.
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=454412
(In reply to Jens Lallensack from comment #6) > A downside is that the "Bookmarks" entry, if you add it to the toolbar, does > not have a shortcut associated with it, and I am unable to define one. Actually you can: go to Configure Toolbar, and set the text of the entry to &Bookmarks. Then Alt+B works, even if the toolbar shows icons only. This is not exactly a discoverable feature, though, even for power users: it only occurred to me to try because I know a bit about GUI programming.