Bug 429274 - Non-root users can't authenticate to disable KWallet
Summary: Non-root users can't authenticate to disable KWallet
Status: CONFIRMED
Alias: None
Product: systemsettings
Classification: Applications
Component: kcm_kwalletconfig5 (other bugs)
Version First Reported In: 5.25.2
Platform: Slackware Linux
: NOR normal
Target Milestone: ---
Assignee: Plasma Bugs List
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Reported: 2020-11-18 01:53 UTC by David Chmelik
Modified: 2022-07-06 08:57 UTC (History)
3 users (show)

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Attachments
Deselected KDE wallet, applied: permission denied. (470.98 KB, image/jpeg)
2020-11-24 23:55 UTC, David Chmelik
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Description David Chmelik 2020-11-18 01:53:13 UTC
SUMMARY
KDE5 (like 4) sometimes forces you to use KDE wallet.

STEPS TO REPRODUCE
1. Deselect 'enable the KDE wallet subsystem' (as non-root.)
2. Apply.
3. Permission denied.

OBSERVED RESULT

Permission denied. Lots of annoying pop-ups I don't use.

EXPECTED RESULT

If you give the option, don't tell users they can't: "don't give users more rope than they need to hang themselves"--an Unix-expert professor/PhD Mathematics who was a computer science (CS) department chair and studied that when still part of Mathematics.

SOFTWARE/OS VERSIONS
Linux/KDE Plasma: Slackware 14-current/5.20.2
KDE Plasma Version: 5.20.2
KDE Frameworks Version: 5.75.0
Qt Version: 5.15.1

ADDITIONAL INFORMATION
Comment 1 David Chmelik 2020-11-18 01:55:14 UTC
When I say KDE5 I'm just going by what FreeBSD Unix and Slackware GNU/Linux packages are called.  I know you don't call it that, but it's easier for users and other programmers, so I'd have to read about the different parts maybe each time I talk about it.
Comment 2 David Edmundson 2020-11-24 23:16:10 UTC
Can you include some screenshots of this permission denied issue. It shouldn't give any.
Comment 3 David Chmelik 2020-11-24 23:55:00 UTC
Created attachment 133618 [details]
Deselected KDE wallet, applied: permission denied.
Comment 4 Bug Janitor Service 2020-12-09 04:34:11 UTC
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Comment 5 David Chmelik 2020-12-09 04:37:10 UTC
FALSE! Look again; I uploaded the screenshot showing I deselected to use KDE wallet, pressed apply, and then it said permission denied.
Comment 6 Christoph Feck 2020-12-11 17:35:30 UTC
New information was added with comment 3; changing status for inspection.
Comment 7 Nate Graham 2021-08-29 17:00:30 UTC
Are you using a non-admin user? Are yo on a System without Polkit?
Comment 8 Bug Janitor Service 2021-09-13 04:35:57 UTC
Dear Bug Submitter,

This bug has been in NEEDSINFO status with no change for at least
15 days. Please provide the requested information as soon as
possible and set the bug status as REPORTED. Due to regular bug
tracker maintenance, if the bug is still in NEEDSINFO status with
no change in 30 days the bug will be closed as RESOLVED > WORKSFORME
due to lack of needed information.

For more information about our bug triaging procedures please read the
wiki located here:
https://community.kde.org/Guidelines_and_HOWTOs/Bug_triaging

If you have already provided the requested information, please
mark the bug as REPORTED so that the KDE team knows that the bug is
ready to be confirmed.

Thank you for helping us make KDE software even better for everyone!
Comment 9 David Chmelik 2021-09-13 04:39:40 UTC
Of course I am using X/KDE as a non-administrator user.  I have polkit-0.119-x86_64-1, polkit-qt-1-0.114.0-x86_64-1, polkit-kde-agent-1-5.22.5-x86_64-1.  Some weeks/months ago I was able to disable it.  This has been an intermittent problem since maybe KDE3 though.
Comment 10 David Chmelik 2022-07-03 01:59:40 UTC
It still happens with non-administrator user and polkit-0.120-x86_64-3, polkit-kde-agent-1-5.25.2-x86_64-1, polkit-qt-1-0.114.0-x86_64-1 .  Now I leave KDE wallet on anyway, but don't use it; don't want to be forced to.
Comment 11 David Chmelik 2022-07-06 08:57:31 UTC
A workaround is--though recommended against--run X/KDE as root and disable KDE wallet there, but as users' wallets aren't necessarily root's (regardless root has access) this should never be required.
        It maybe used to happen on Kubuntu and KDE Neon User, but may no longer happen on KDE Neon User, though I had run X/KDE as root on that maybe to do this (then deleted root's config/local/X/KDE files) and maybe to install fonts and configure printers (these other cases for which there should be option systemsettings run that configuration as root, rather than run X/KDE as root, because it's said certain X things mess up as root.)