Bug 429162 - Reports showing expenses as negative
Summary: Reports showing expenses as negative
Status: REPORTED
Alias: None
Product: kmymoney
Classification: Applications
Component: reports (show other bugs)
Version: 5.1.0
Platform: Appimage Linux
: NOR normal
Target Milestone: ---
Assignee: KMyMoney Devel Mailing List
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Reported: 2020-11-15 16:46 UTC by jesse
Modified: 2020-11-15 16:46 UTC (History)
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Description jesse 2020-11-15 16:46:07 UTC
SUMMARY

Income reports, and maybe others, show a transfers values as negative but not expenses. They are both subtracted from Income, so I would expect both to show as negative values. Can we make it consistent or is there an accounting difference between Transfers and Expenses making Transfers show as negative but not Expenses?

Adding Transfers to the report, will in a way make this a Cashflow type of report. It is useful to see the data this way, but the inconsistent value sign bothers me. Can there be an option to show absolute values for Expense/Transfers? It would be ideal to be able to graph this with absolute values too (meaning Expenses and Transfers are showing as positive values). A toggle, like the one that exist for Expenses would suffice. 

This is similar to BUG ID: 380852, however, there they are saying that users do are not used to seeing expenses in negative numbers. Expenses are negative but in Accounting reports, it is understood that the expenses are negative. No sign is required. This wish list is to further show transfers and expenses with the same sign. To reduce confusion even more. 

Ideally, it would be awesome if KMY could show columns for Debit and Credits to remove the value sign completely. (a wish list for another time)

STEPS TO REPRODUCE
1. Open KMyMoney
2. Go to Reports
3. Open the income and Expense report 
4. Click Rows and Columns tabs 
5. Set Rows to Income & Expenses (the default)
6. Set Detail to Top Level 
7. Set the checkbox for Include Transfers to Selected(checked)
8. Go to the Filters tab
9. Go to the Account tab
10. Click on the None button to deselect all the accounts
11. Select all the Asset accounts, and only the Asset accounts. 
12. Hit Apply 

OBSERVED RESULT
Expenses are shown as positive values but Transfers are red and showing with a negative sign. 

EXPECTED RESULT
I would expect their sign to be consistent. Either show both Expenses and Transfers as negative values (meaning we do INCOME - Expenses - Transfer) or show them both as absolute values(no sign) and in the background do the math correctly. As long as they are consistent(assuming they are both subtracted :)  from an accounting perspective.) 



SOFTWARE/OS VERSIONS
Windows: 
macOS: 
Linux/KDE Plasma: Linux: Gnome Fedora 33
KDE Frameworks 5.51.0
Qt 5.11.3 (built against 5.11.3)
The xcb windowing system

ADDITIONAL INFORMATION
Running this as App image under Gnome Wayland. 

Similar to Bug : 380852