Bug 428641 - Emoticons no longer converted into emojis in Kmail 5.15.2
Summary: Emoticons no longer converted into emojis in Kmail 5.15.2
Status: RESOLVED INTENTIONAL
Alias: None
Product: kmail2
Classification: Applications
Component: composer (show other bugs)
Version: 5.15.2
Platform: openSUSE Linux
: NOR normal
Target Milestone: ---
Assignee: kdepim bugs
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Reported: 2020-11-03 13:10 UTC by B. Scheichl
Modified: 2020-12-01 20:50 UTC (History)
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attachment-3055-0.html (3.96 KB, text/html)
2020-12-01 15:10 UTC, B. Scheichl
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attachment-15962-0.html (2.47 KB, text/html)
2020-12-01 18:58 UTC, B. Scheichl
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Description B. Scheichl 2020-11-03 13:10:49 UTC
SUMMARY


STEPS TO REPRODUCE
1. Open a new message (Rich/HTML format).
2. Type ";-)" or ":-)" or ... in text, then send.
3. Reciepient gets this as smiley/plain text -- not automatically converted!
 
OBSERVED RESULT

Recipient sees simple smiley as typed!

EXPECTED RESULT

Recipient expects smiley replaced by colored emoji!

SOFTWARE/OS VERSIONS
Windows: 
macOS: 
Linux/KDE Plasma: opensUSE Tumbleweed, all latest versions
(available in About System)
KDE Plasma Version: 5.20
KDE Frameworks Version: 
Qt Version: 

ADDITIONAL INFORMATION

This worked perfectly in earlier versions, with the colored emojis in Breeze style!
Only workaround: add an emoji from "Add Smiley" in the toolbar once emojis are installed. By default, these are only black/white, one has to add manually colored emojics (another nuisance). All that was never necessary in earlier versions of KDE/Kmail (and is not the expected state-of-the art behaviour).
Comment 1 Christoph Feck 2020-12-01 14:44:58 UTC
If you typed ":-)" that text was sent verbatim, and the viewer of that mail would need a configuration to convert these to images, in other words, if you configured to replace emoticons with images, _you_ were seeing images.

With the Emoji standard slowly replacing ASCII emoticons, the expected behavior is to send Emoji. See also bug 424090.
Comment 2 B. Scheichl 2020-12-01 15:10:33 UTC
Created attachment 133775 [details]
attachment-3055-0.html

Dear Mr. Feck,

many thanks. And how can I configure to replace emoticons with images? In earlier versions of Kmail, that was done automatically. Now, sending ";-)" to myself remains simply ";-)". In the earlier versions, the emoji appeared. So how can this be changed?

Please a short reply!


Kind regards, B. Scheichl


On Tuesday, 1 December 2020 15:44:58 CET Christoph Feck wrote:

> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=428641

>

> Christoph Feck <cfeck@kde.org> changed:

>

>            What    |Removed                     |Added

> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------

> Status|REPORTED                    |RESOLVED

>          Resolution|---                         |INTENTIONAL

>

> --- Comment #1 from Christoph Feck <cfeck@kde.org> ---

> If you typed ":-)" that text was sent verbatim, and the viewer of that mail

> would need a configuration to convert these to images, in other words, if

> you configured to replace emoticons with images, _you_ were seeing images.

>

> With the Emoji standard slowly replacing ASCII emoticons, the expected

> behavior is to send Emoji. See also bug 424090.
--

Priv.-Doz. DI Dr. Bernhard Scheichl


Technische Universität Wien | Institute of Fluid Mechanics and Heat Transfer

Tower BA/E322 | Getreidemarkt 9 | 1060 Vienna | Austria

T: +43-1-58801-32225 | www.fluid.tuwien.ac.at<http://www.fluid.tuwien.ac.at/>
Comment 3 Christoph Feck 2020-12-01 16:02:27 UTC
> Only workaround: add an emoji from "Add Smiley" in the toolbar

This is not the workaround, but the intended way to add Emoji.
Comment 4 B. Scheichl 2020-12-01 18:58:53 UTC
Created attachment 133782 [details]
attachment-15962-0.html

Thanks, but you said:

"if you configured to replace emoticons with images, _you_ were seeing images."

So the question is still: HOW can I configure Kmail to replace  emoticons with images? When I understand you correctly, adding from "Add Smiley" in the toolbar now is the ONLY way to do this? It worked in the past automatically, so why was that sensible feature removed?

Just your (final) answer please!

Best, B. S.



On Tuesday, 1 December 2020 17:02:27 CET you wrote:

> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=428641

>

> --- Comment #3 from Christoph Feck <cfeck@kde.org> ---

>

> > Only workaround: add an emoji from "Add Smiley" in the toolbar

>

> This is not the workaround, but the intended way to add Emoji.
--

Priv.-Doz. DI Dr. Bernhard Scheichl


Technische Universität Wien | Institute of Fluid Mechanics and Heat Transfer

Tower BA/E322 | Getreidemarkt 9 | 1060 Vienna | Austria

T: +43-1-58801-32225 | www.fluid.tuwien.ac.at<http://www.fluid.tuwien.ac.at/>
Comment 5 Christoph Feck 2020-12-01 20:50:49 UTC
Yes, I wrote "were", not "are". Configuring this was old behaviour that has been removed. The KEmoticons framework is being phased out, and developers are porting to the Emoji standard (finally, after being part of the Unicode standard since 2010).