SUMMARY I'd love to have easy ways to work with other people's notes about timestamps. STEPS TO REPRODUCE 1. record a video in zoom - get a clip with a set of timestamps 2. whilst doing zoom meeting have YouTube running - timestamps have a fixed offset 3. start editing - sections of clips have a variable offset in the timeline 4. get notes about problems in each of those different timelines (and possibly, separately. 5. look really hard at the kdenlive documentation OBSERVED RESULT * If I put notes with timestamps into the project notes window they aren't recognised as timestamps - this would be really nice * I can't find an easy way to jump to the timeline at an timestamp in a clip - this would be really nice too * Really mega nice would be to be able to put timestamps and clip offsets in a way that can jump to them automatically EXPECTED RESULT * I would hope for it to be easy to work with different timestamps with various offsets in the timeline of various clips. * I would like to see a second time ruler with the time relative to a given clip, maybe just above the clip the timeline. * It might be neat to be able to paste notes into the project notes window, maybe linke so: Clip-1 offset -5:17:33 00:00:04:07 - john says start 00:00:04:07 - lucy interrupts - delete 00:00:11:25 - banging from outside - mute SOFTWARE/OS VERSIONS Windows: macOS: Linux/KDE Plasma: (available in About System) KDE Frameworks 5.68.0 Qt 5.14.1 (built against 5.14.1) The xcb windowing system Using: MLT version 6.20.0 ADDITIONAL INFORMATION We've been using kdenlive for many of the edits to the Alpine Club lectures - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCgoaAomJnfVxyo62Rkkv76A/ - Whilst I'm here I'd just like to say a huge thankyou to everybody who's ever worked on Kdenlive, ffmpeg, all the other underlying libraries. It's been great.
Thanks for your report. I have just implemented timecode parsing on paste, great idea. Regarding timecode relative to a timeline clip, that seems problematic, because moving a clip would change the offset, also what happens if you copy/paste the clip, resize its start or cut it... that doesn't seem a good approach to me. Another approach that seems more feasible would be to convert the timecode notes to clip markers. Taking your example, if we have this in the project notes: ----- 00:00:04:07 - john says start 00:00:04:07 - lucy interrupts - delete 00:00:11:25 - banging from outside - mute ----- We could have the option to select these 3 timecode lines, and a context menu would allow to apply them as markers to the clip selected in project bin. These markers will the be visible in the timeline clip. This would be easy to implement with our current architecture. What do you think ?
Git commit 6f58f7fb6fadcdde20c5958e135b7d5dd34a1d6d by Jean-Baptiste Mardelle. Committed on 01/05/2020 at 15:16. Pushed by mardelle into branch 'release/20.04'. Implement timecode parsing when pasting text in Project notes M +21 -1 src/project/dialogs/noteswidget.cpp M +1 -0 src/project/dialogs/noteswidget.h M +2 -3 src/project/notesplugin.cpp https://invent.kde.org/kde/kdenlive/commit/6f58f7fb6fadcdde20c5958e135b7d5dd34a1d6d
Git commit 92b4cd13888f503252403852e30c2fa99f9d882e by Jean-Baptiste Mardelle. Committed on 01/05/2020 at 15:17. Pushed by mardelle into branch 'master'. Implement timecode parsing when pasting text in Project notes M +21 -1 src/project/dialogs/noteswidget.cpp M +1 -0 src/project/dialogs/noteswidget.h M +2 -3 src/project/notesplugin.cpp https://invent.kde.org/kde/kdenlive/commit/92b4cd13888f503252403852e30c2fa99f9d882e
If I understand this correctly, markers seems to me to be the right thing - a property of the original recording. I've tried to work out how the workflow would be and I can't work out how I would get to a marker on the main timeline. This would definitely be inconvenient. Two typical problems we get - 1) Zoom has shown someone other than the presenter around the time when we do a switchover and have to have multiple people unmuted 2) a slide has taken too long to load and so the presenter is talking about it before it's visible Currently I 1. load a whole MP4 clip from zoom into the project and place it directly in the timelne 2. navigate to the place where I know there's a problem - identify start and end 3. create a slideshow clip which covers the correct time period 4. place the slideshow clip into the timeline at the point which needs overwritten a similar procedure happens also for sound glitches. Although I can get to a marker in the Clip Monitor I can't work out how to quickly navigate to a marker in the Project Monitor / main timeline. If there was a way to place a marker in a clip and then use that to get to the location(s) in the main timeline where it's visible then this would be great. As it is, it would be nice but wouldn't solve the problem of how to get to the right point in the timelene to do the next edit.
Further comment to this (I'm still working on 20.04.0 - I don't see a clear way to update this to a daily build on Ubuntu 18.04 which I have right now). Due to the lack of timeline zoom I find working on the clip window much harder than working on the main timeline. This makes working with markers a definite pain. I guess that an ability to use the main timeline window for interaction with a clip would work or alternatively visiability of clips in the main timeline?
Git commit 36ea33714e919b412331bce0631454f1dce26c68 by Jean-Baptiste Mardelle. Committed on 03/06/2020 at 21:19. Pushed by mardelle into branch 'master'. Project notes: allow creating markers from timestamps and assign timestamps to current bin clip M +15 -0 src/bin/bin.cpp M +3 -0 src/bin/bin.h M +26 -0 src/bin/model/markerlistmodel.cpp M +1 -0 src/bin/model/markerlistmodel.hpp M +10 -0 src/core.cpp M +2 -0 src/core.h M +3 -11 src/mainwindow.cpp M +137 -5 src/project/dialogs/noteswidget.cpp M +10 -2 src/project/dialogs/noteswidget.h M +64 -4 src/project/notesplugin.cpp M +4 -0 src/project/notesplugin.h https://invent.kde.org/multimedia/kdenlive/commit/36ea33714e919b412331bce0631454f1dce26c68