Bug 416618 - Allow selection of default torrent client
Summary: Allow selection of default torrent client
Status: RESOLVED INTENTIONAL
Alias: None
Product: systemsettings
Classification: Applications
Component: kcm_componentchooser (show other bugs)
Version: unspecified
Platform: Other Linux
: NOR wishlist
Target Milestone: ---
Assignee: Unassigned bugs mailing-list
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Reported: 2020-01-22 16:13 UTC by Nate Graham
Modified: 2020-03-14 18:14 UTC (History)
3 users (show)

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Description Nate Graham 2020-01-22 16:13:38 UTC
Just what the title says. :)
Comment 1 Munzir Taha 2020-02-15 18:28:13 UTC
May I ask why not just right-click any .torrent file -> Open With, choose the preferred app and "Remember application association..."?

Or you will have to do this for a lot of file extensions and mime types.
Comment 2 David Edmundson 2020-02-16 17:22:33 UTC
There is

Applications -> file associations x-bittorrent


If that isn't enough, please reopen and say why this isn't enough.
Comment 3 Nate Graham 2020-02-16 17:31:21 UTC
Because that's not a user-friendly user interface. We want to move in the direction of making this page the basic view that suffices for 99% of users, and putting the super nerdy super complicated file associations KCM a one-level-deeper advanced view
Comment 4 David Edmundson 2020-02-16 17:38:43 UTC
The current split is:

URI handlers
File associations

that may be an implementation detail leaking into the UI, but it has some consistency to it

I completely agree that file associations KCM needs some work, but I don't understand the report that seems to suggest we would treat choosing your .torrent files association differently to choosing your preferred editor for .stl files or whatever.
Comment 5 Nate Graham 2020-02-16 20:56:06 UTC
(In reply to David Edmundson from comment #4)
> The current split is:
> 
> URI handlers
> File associations
> 
> that may be an implementation detail leaking into the UI, but it has some
> consistency to it

It does, but it is. :) The problem is that it's a very developer-centric split. Think about it from a user perspective. To a user, configuring which is your default torrent client is in the same wheelhouse as configuring your default web browser or email client.

In this line of thought, the File Associations KCM should be used for selectively and optionally overriding the default settings in the componentchooser KCM.

Does that make sense?
Comment 6 David Edmundson 2020-02-16 22:30:34 UTC
Not really.

I haven't heard a reason to make this one particular file a different case from all of the other file types.
Comment 7 Nate Graham 2020-02-16 22:58:06 UTC
In a nutshell, because the Component Chooser KCM now has a good UI, while the File Associations KCM has a bad UI.

Part of the reason for the latter is because the File Associations KCM uses mimetypes as the base level of organization. Choosing a mimetype and then choosing a sequence of apps to associate with that mimetype is never going to be easier than choosing an app to associate with a user-friendly string (e.g. "Torrent client").
Comment 8 David Edmundson 2020-02-17 07:39:46 UTC
Then we need to clean the UI in a way that has user friendly strings for all the things.
Comment 9 Munzir Taha 2020-02-18 20:21:32 UTC
Default Applications in my humble opinion has its use.

E.g. if it handled media type with many subtypes. You have **Audio Player** there and instead of going manually and setting the default application for each one of aac, ac3, amr-wb, amr, flac, midi, mp2, mp3, ogg, realaudio, ... from `File Associations`, or by right-clicking each one of those types, it's a one-click away.

The same applies for **Video Player**, **Image Viewer**, ...

Does that make sense?
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Comment 11 Christoph Feck 2020-03-06 11:52:05 UTC
Comment 9 doesn't clarify why a special UI setting for torrent client is needed.
Comment 12 Nate Graham 2020-03-06 18:06:46 UTC
Basically, because the mimetype-based component chooser has a subpar UX, meaning that any given mimetype-to-app mapping is hard to find. The tree view is basically useless and you need to use the search, but the tree view has much more visual prominence then the search. It needs a redesign.

Maybe that would be better discussed in a Phab task or the VDG channel than a bug report though.
Comment 13 Christoph Feck 2020-03-07 15:55:12 UTC
Yes, UX can be improved. But that doesn't justify why torrent files need to be treated specially compared to, say, Office or Blender files.

KTorrent for example, registers itself as a handler for torrent files, so if you have it installed, it works automatically. If other applications also register as a handler, then the new UI could automatically display combo boxes for all file types that have multiple handling applications registered.
Comment 14 Munzir Taha 2020-03-14 17:56:46 UTC
(In reply to Christoph Feck from comment #11)
> Comment 9 doesn't clarify why a special UI setting for torrent client is
> needed.

You misunderstood my comment. I am the first to reply and say not to treat torrent as a special case. The things I suggested adding to Default Applications are things like Default Video Player, and I already explained the reason. It saves tremendous time and this is the norm in other OS's. May be this should be a separate bug.
Comment 15 Patrick Silva 2020-03-14 18:14:42 UTC
Feature to set default video player was already requested - bug 232545.