SUMMARY Kmymoney has more bugs in it than ever. 1) Auto increment check number can not be turned off. Constantly increments the check number column regardless if you check the box or not. Had to call the account a savings account to get around this. 2) Tags. I you make a typo in the tag box, it it automatically saved. 3) Once to pick a tag and out the cursor in the amount box, the dollar amount shows up as a tag. You must double click in the dollar box for it to work. 4) Tag box can't be disabled. Now the memo box is too small to paste in data. A real step backward. This new version is costing me much more time to input data and resulting is more errors. STEPS TO REPRODUCE 1. 2. 3. OBSERVED RESULT EXPECTED RESULT SOFTWARE/OS VERSIONS Windows: MacOS: Linux/KDE Plasma: (available in About System) KDE Plasma Version: KDE Frameworks Version: Qt Version: ADDITIONAL INFORMATION
Summary: it may well be that your observations are true, though I cannot reproduce most of them here. Please upgrade to a newer version (5.0.2) where they may have already been fixed (details on https://kmymoney.org/release-notes.php). 1) I am unable to duplicate this problem in 5.0.2. Please check against 5.0.2 or describe exactly what you do (mouse move, keyboard usage, etc.). What is the state of "Settings/Ledger/Data entry/Auto increment check number"? 2) There is a security question if you want to create a new tag if the current text is unknown. In case you have selected the "Don't show this again" in the past, then it will be created w/o user interaction. Use "Settings/Enable all messages" to get it back. 3) How do you "out the cursor" exactly? Do you use the mouse and click? Do you use the keyboard? If yes, which sequence? Do you use register entry or form entry? These are important details we need to be able to duplicate your problem. So far, I am unable to duplicate it with the version of the current stable branch (which is 5.0.2 plus additional changes) 4) Yes. Work is underway to fix the screen-estate issue.
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First of all you are trying to duplicate these errors with 5.0.2. I am using 5.0.0. I do not know how to compile in Linux so I can not even try 5.0.2. I also do not know how to show you screen shots as add attachments puts me on another screen. I am using Mint 19.1 with Mate desktop. 1) If you could just make the auto increment turn off when the box is unchecked, most of the issues would go away. 2) As far as tags go, just make the field smaller and/or put a check box in the configure - KmMoney screen that will allow you to turn off tags. 3) Make the memo field larger. The same size it used to be would be great. I am not a Linux wiz. So, please don't ask me how to reproduce this again. The problems are still there and I am stuck with this program as I have been using it for 10 years.
First of all you are trying to duplicate these errors with 5.0.2. I am using 5.0.0. I do not know how to compile in Linux so I can not even try 5.0.2. I also do not know how to show you screen shots as add attachments puts me on another screen. I am using Mint 19.1 with Mate desktop. 1) If you could just make the auto increment turn off when the box is unchecked, most of the issues would go away. 2) As far as tags go, just make the field smaller and/or put a check box in the configure - KmMoney screen that will allow you to turn off tags. 3) Make the memo field larger. The same size it used to be would be great. I am not a Linux wiz. So, please don't ask me how to reproduce this again. The problems are still there and I am stuck with this program as I have been using it for 10 years. On 1/17/19 11:33 PM, Bug Janitor Service wrote: > https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=402801 > > --- Comment #2 from Bug Janitor Service <bug-janitor@kde.org> --- > Dear Bug Submitter, > > This bug has been in NEEDSINFO status with no change for at least > 15 days. Please provide the requested information as soon as > possible and set the bug status as REPORTED. Due to regular bug > tracker maintenance, if the bug is still in NEEDSINFO status with > no change in 30 days the bug will be closed as RESOLVED > WORKSFORME > due to lack of needed information. > > For more information about our bug triaging procedures please read the > wiki located here: > https://community.kde.org/Guidelines_and_HOWTOs/Bug_triaging > > If you have already provided the requested information, please > mark the bug as REPORTED so that the KDE team knows that the bug is > ready to be confirmed. > > Thank you for helping us make KDE software even better for everyone! >
Dean, I don't think there is much the developers can do if you have no way of getting a more recent KMM package for your system. 5.0 was extremely buggy as expected but most issues have been resolved in 5.0.1 and 5.0.2. I think your best bet may be to compile from source which I may able to help you with. I have been using a script to build KMM from source on Linux for many years. I have been modifying the script recently to make it more user friendly in hopes of sharing it with other KMM users. As written now you can build from the Master, 5.0 and 4.8 branches of the git repository. I hope to add building from released tarballs eventually. Please note, you have to install all dependencies manually before the build script will complete successfully. It's not always easy to get all the correct packages installed but sharing your error messages on the mailing list usually helps. Let me know if you are interested in trying to run the BuldKMM script. It's very safe to run, it does not do anything to change your system (no sudo commands). It builds from source in a clean folder. It's also in the best shape to share. If it works then I will try to get the Install script in better shape to share. It does modify your system and it's best to uninstall any kMM package that you have installed before running it. If you are not on the KMM developer mailing list please join it so that we can troubleshoot the scripts in the open. https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kmymoney-devel Brendan
Brendan I am ok with using the terminal. My problem is knowing which dependencies to install. I use Synaptic normally to install & remove packages. If you can supply the sudo command lines I can install them in the terminal. Problem I ran into is there are only tarballs available and that is when I run into problems. Dean On 1/18/19 1:19 PM, bugzilla_noreply@kde.org wrote: > https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=402801 > > Brendan@CoupeWare.com changed: > > What |Removed |Added > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > CC| |Brendan@CoupeWare.com > > --- Comment #5 from Brendan@CoupeWare.com --- > Dean, > > I don't think there is much the developers can do if you have no way of getting > a more recent KMM package for your system. 5.0 was extremely buggy as expected > but most issues have been resolved in 5.0.1 and 5.0.2. I think your best bet > may be to compile from source which I may able to help you with. > > I have been using a script to build KMM from source on Linux for many years. I > have been modifying the script recently to make it more user friendly in hopes > of sharing it with other KMM users. As written now you can build from the > Master, 5.0 and 4.8 branches of the git repository. I hope to add building from > released tarballs eventually. > > Please note, you have to install all dependencies manually before the build > script will complete successfully. It's not always easy to get all the correct > packages installed but sharing your error messages on the mailing list usually > helps. > > Let me know if you are interested in trying to run the BuldKMM script. It's > very safe to run, it does not do anything to change your system (no sudo > commands). It builds from source in a clean folder. It's also in the best shape > to share. > > If it works then I will try to get the Install script in better shape to share. > It does modify your system and it's best to uninstall any kMM package that you > have installed before running it. > > If you are not on the KMM developer mailing list please join it so that we can > troubleshoot the scripts in the open. > > https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kmymoney-devel > > > Brendan >
We need to move this to the developer mailing list. This is a general discussion not related to this bug and others may be interested. Have you subscribed to it yet? Once you subscribe I will send an email in response to your question about dependencies the best I can. The email will have the topic "Compiling KMM from Source". ---- Brendan Coupe On Fri, Jan 18, 2019 at 12:52 PM <bugzilla_noreply@kde.org> wrote: > > https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=402801 > > --- Comment #6 from deanmalbert@yahoo.com --- > Brendan > > > I am ok with using the terminal. My problem is knowing which > dependencies to install. I use Synaptic normally to install & remove > packages. > > If you can supply the sudo command lines I can install them in the > terminal. Problem I ran into is there are only tarballs available and > that is when I run into problems. > > Dean > > > On 1/18/19 1:19 PM, bugzilla_noreply@kde.org wrote: > > https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=402801 > > > > Brendan@CoupeWare.com changed: > > > > What |Removed |Added > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > CC| |Brendan@CoupeWare.com > > > > --- Comment #5 from Brendan@CoupeWare.com --- > > Dean, > > > > I don't think there is much the developers can do if you have no way of getting > > a more recent KMM package for your system. 5.0 was extremely buggy as expected > > but most issues have been resolved in 5.0.1 and 5.0.2. I think your best bet > > may be to compile from source which I may able to help you with. > > > > I have been using a script to build KMM from source on Linux for many years. I > > have been modifying the script recently to make it more user friendly in hopes > > of sharing it with other KMM users. As written now you can build from the > > Master, 5.0 and 4.8 branches of the git repository. I hope to add building from > > released tarballs eventually. > > > > Please note, you have to install all dependencies manually before the build > > script will complete successfully. It's not always easy to get all the correct > > packages installed but sharing your error messages on the mailing list usually > > helps. > > > > Let me know if you are interested in trying to run the BuldKMM script. It's > > very safe to run, it does not do anything to change your system (no sudo > > commands). It builds from source in a clean folder. It's also in the best shape > > to share. > > > > If it works then I will try to get the Install script in better shape to share. > > It does modify your system and it's best to uninstall any kMM package that you > > have installed before running it. > > > > If you are not on the KMM developer mailing list please join it so that we can > > troubleshoot the scripts in the open. > > > > https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kmymoney-devel > > > > > > Brendan > > > > -- > You are receiving this mail because: > You are the assignee for the bug.
The original post, aside from being a general rant, listed four specific items. The first one (autoincrement) has been fixed (see bug 402101) It is not clear to me if the other three are really bugs, wishlist items, or just usage issues. Given that the discussion has mainly be moved to the mailing list, should this be closed as WORKSFORME or changed to a wishlist for something related to TAGS?
The remaining issues are: 2) usage issue (we wait for feedback from original poster) 3) I don't know what that should be since I cannot duplicate it 4) wishlist item: make tags a plugin which can be disabled
Created attachment 117749 [details] attachment-25300-0.html Thomas, I have tried build #161 appimage and it does not work. Changes were supposedly made in build #162 but the appimage failed to be captured. I have been waiting for a newer build that has a completed appimage, but all builds from 162 to 165 failed. I can't test the issues until a completed appimage is available. Dean Albert https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=402801 --- Comment #9 from Thomas Baumgart<tbaumgart@kde.org> --- The remaining issues are: 2) usage issue (we wait for feedback from original poster) 3) I don't know what that should be since I cannot duplicate it 4) wishlist item: make tags a plugin which can be disabled -- You are receiving this mail because: You reported the bug.
I know that it fails. This failure is not related to the source changes we made but to something else, which needs to be found out. I opened https://phabricator.kde.org/T10428 to get this done.
With the ongoing support of KDE sysadmin Ben Cooksley the problem has been fixed and a new AppImage file is now available for furhter testing.
I don't know what you want me to do, so stop sending me emails. All I asked for is a way to get rid of the Tags field. I don't use the Tags at all. I want the old larger Memo field. Whatever you do really doesn't matter as I still can't install an upgraded KMM version in my distro without compiling it myself. I can not do that, so why should I bother reporting issues? On 2/15/19 11:33 PM, Bug Janitor Service wrote: > https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=402801 > > --- Comment #13 from Bug Janitor Service <bug-janitor@kde.org> --- > Dear Bug Submitter, > > This bug has been in NEEDSINFO status with no change for at least > 15 days. Please provide the requested information as soon as > possible and set the bug status as REPORTED. Due to regular bug > tracker maintenance, if the bug is still in NEEDSINFO status with > no change in 30 days the bug will be closed as RESOLVED > WORKSFORME > due to lack of needed information. > > For more information about our bug triaging procedures please read the > wiki located here: > https://community.kde.org/Guidelines_and_HOWTOs/Bug_triaging > > If you have already provided the requested information, please > mark the bug as REPORTED so that the KDE team knows that the bug is > ready to be confirmed. > > Thank you for helping us make KDE software even better for everyone! >
I created a wishlist item as bug #404773 to make the tags an optional feature so that it does not get lost. Since the other items of this report are resolved and the OP does not wish to get further mails, I close this entry as 'works for me'.